14mo sleep regression. Didn't think it was this bad with dd1!

[TB9]

Ahhhh good old wonder weeks!  So this wonder week has hit dd2 really, really hard   I think she devotes all her energy to not sleeping!

Before the you know what hit the fan she was doing this
7:30ish wakeup
1pm-2:30pm nap
8:30pm bed

Today was
7:30am wakeup
1pm-1:30pm nap
8:15pm bed 

So I dont remember things being this bad during the 14mo regression with dd1.  This. is. insane.
She literally is fighting sleep as she is falling asleep, lol.  I had to walk around the house with her until she fell asleep two nights in the last week because she was clinging to me for dear life if I tried to sit in her chair in her room with her.  We were getting back to nearly independent sleep before this hit, but now pffffft out the window!

So anyone remember how bad 14months was?  Did I just block it from my mind with dd1?  What do I do now?  Just go with whatever she gives me and hope the storm passes eventually?

[HenaV]

Hey Tinks!

Big (((hugs))) - don't you just hate wonder weeks!

I have found bringing the nap earlier and BT earlier helps (usually by about 30m) That is on the basis that R gets OT fairly easily so I just have to manage that. Other to that I stick as closely to R's routine as she will allow and maintain consitency using Wi/WO. So where she is treating her bed as some evil thing mummy's offering her up to for example, I literally put her in bed (even if that means peeling her off me), tell her it's night nights (or whatever your phrase is),offer her the reassurance that mummy is here and there's nothing to worry about - usual good night kisses (usually among protests of no no no) and leave. Witching seconds I'll be back in and rinse and repeat until she goes to sleep. It exhausting bit it helps get through th patch without creating a bigger problem

Hth
H x

[ZacsMumme]

All I can say Tink is I HATED this WW! It went on for weeks too
Can you resettle at the 30 mins? I also think I tried an earlier nap and tried to get a good one knowing BT battles were certain no matter how much he napped

[TB9]

She slept until 7:30am, but needed a lot of help through the night

She was getting sleepyin the car this morning so I can probably go with 1pm nap again.  I tried to resttle yesterday but no luck.  Hopefully she gets a good one today..but it seems she wants to do 7hrs A (or close to it)before bed, no matter how long her nap, so I almost hope for a short nap so she isnt up until 10pm, lol.

I cant do wi/wo, she will get so upset that she vomits    I will sit in her room with her on my lap and when she is settled I put her into her crib.  If she gets upset and doesnt settle in her crib I have to take her out and sit with her again until she is calm and settled and I try all over again.  Given the tendency to get so upset she pukes it is really the only option for us sleep training wise    I had her falling asleep in her crib before this started, but then it all just went bad

She was trying to say some words yesterday, so hopefully this will pass when she is through the wonderweek.  I dont remember dd1 being as chatty at this age, so maybe it is so difficult for dd2 because of the language stuff she is going through with it?   We were talking about her sleeping habits with my ils this weekend, and they said something about dh being exactly the same when he was a baby and going through developmental stuff.  So I blame him 

[TB9]

Went with 1pm nap again, and she slept 30min again.  Happy as coukd be untik 8:45pm when she started zoning out a bit soI put her to bed and she didnt make a stink, at all!  She did have some troubles this morning between 5:30ish and 7am, I had to sit with her quite a bit...

I am very tempted to let her sleep this morning instead of waking her at 7:30 to see if that helps with her nights.  If she is anything like dd1 she needs lots of A time and prefers to get her sleep overnight, maybe its time to start throwing in some no nap days?  I will probably wake her though, even though I am sure she can handle it, I dont know that I can handle no nap days, lol.

Sara - did the boys go back to their normal routine after this ww?  Or did it end up changing?

[ZacsMumme]

I think I let both boys sleep in when they needed/need. I see night sleep as more important long term so during these periods I adjust the day to fit the sleep in.

I think this is the age I started to push the nap later in the day. So add 30 mins to the first A....

How are her teeth. Ts 1 yr molars started trouble at this age. I always just fed at the EW (still do!) 

[LovelyLilyandJack]

I'm afraid we're with you again on this,  tink. I cursed myself for saying we'd hit a good routine cos it's all changed again! J started a leap a couple of days ago and we're back with the short naps too. The only thing I've noticed (I think) is that J ups his A's in every WW I think.  As in, they permanently increase.  I've tried waiting things out til a leap ends and he's never gone back to his old A's. I'm riding this one out so far cos it's only just started for us, and we haven't got much further to go in terms of pushing the nap back, so I don't really know where we'd go from here!  But I'll be following along with interest....

[ZacsMumme]

yeah as LL&J says increase the A a bit. though once on one nap my boys did well with 'shifting' the nap later so the first A got longer and the last gets shorter. im pretty close to capping Ts nap less than 2 hrs which is earlier than with Z but he seems more spirited.

the joys of parenting huh

[goldmom]

How are her teeth. Ts 1 yr molars started trouble at this age.

Was thinking this too, DS gave us trouble for a few nights at this age, but then settled down again - and he got his molars then. DD is just about past it, is just getting her molars now, and her night troubles during the ww was only for 1 night (luckily!) - she has started waking up earlier in the day, but only a bit, but she's so quiet I'm not really sure what time or how long she's been getting up earlier for. We've also started pushing her BT by about 15 minutes recently.

Can you give your LO something to do in her crib while she's settling down for her nap, so maybe she can read a little before hand so that she can stay calm? We would also let DS "read" a bit before he fell asleep (after BT), which helped when he wasn't too tired (we only half-heartedly tried it with DD, and she didn't take to the reading too much).

[TB9]

Thanks for all the support and ideas ladies 

Yesterday went like this:
9am wakeup
3:50-4:30nap (woke her)
9:45 bedtime

Then she woke at 7am this morning  but I only had to go in once to resettle her lastnight so that is 

I think during the ww she is going to need massive A times, but hopefully will settle back to around 6hr As...for now I am just going to keep following her cues, I was totally prepared to have a no nap day yesterday, lol.  I would love to do a 45min nap again today to keep bedtime earlier, but with just over 9hrs night sleep I dont know if I am brave enough, hahaha.

DH and I do try to keep her chilled out at night before bed, but her brain is on overdrive!  We sneak books in here and there to keep her calm between playing with things.  She also has her stuffed kitty in her crib with her that she could cuddle/play with if she wakes, dh said she was standing up waving it at him when he went in this morning to get her 

She has her top molars just sitting there waiting to cut through, she is drooling a lot, but no signs of them actually cutting through right now    Usually she gets cranky and sleepy when her teeth cut, so im keeping my fingers crossed they start cutting soon so she actually wants to sleep 

[ZacsMumme]

She has her top molars just sitting there waiting to cut through, she is drooling a lot, but no signs of them actually cutting through right now    Usually she gets cranky and sleepy when her teeth cut, so im keeping my fingers crossed they start cutting soon so she actually wants to sleep 

Ts bottom ones are doing just this ^^^ and his top ones took forever too. They are awful for sleep as they just irritate enough to stop them settling I think.

What about. Something like this for the ww...
WU 7
Nap 1-2
BT 7-7.30 or is that too much day sleep? - does she do ok with a long first and shorter last A

[TB9]

Yesterday was like this:

7am wakeup
11:45-1:45 nap
9:45pm bed

I let her sleep 2hrs for nap because she had a 9hr night.  I am going to try 1hr nap today, unless she wakes early    Short A doesnt work so well before bed for her, so I am going to try this today:

7:30am wakeup
1:30-2:30 nap
Bed whenever she is ready

Also noticed yesterday that her bottom canines are now white spots, so they wilk start cutting soon, and schedule will be all wacky anyway 

[ZacsMumme]

(((Hugs))))

All I will say is we had a 10 hr night and T was a mess 5-6.30 am when I got him up and his molars are all over the place - so IMO right now, blame teeth!

If you can I'd try to go with the flow till things settle. It's all you can do really aye? - I'm forcing myself to do just that with T

[TB9]

Yep, tried 1:30 nap, but she had other ideas.  Tried again at 2:20ish and let her sleep until 3ish.  If I am lucky she will be tired by 9pm

[ZacsMumme]

Oh bless. Dyt she is tired but just unable to settle with he teeth? Or more WW stuff?
You could try pain meds and reasonable BT and see if she settles earlier...