SA in spirited 22 mo dd

[Aishi]

Have never had issues with SA before with dd or ds...Its comeout of nowhere ttoday we've finally gotten back into a routine after SR and teething and now this!

Her normal routine

Wu 6.30-7.30
A 5.5h
Nap 1.5-2.5
A 4-4.5 dependant on nap length
Bt 6-7.30

She's very sensitive to ot which is why were on a times still...

Routine went to pot today

Wu 7 (13h night)
Nap 1-1.20 (pd 12.20 ut/ot?)
Bt pd 6

I'm sitting by her cot holding her hand still at 8.45 or she starts crying...wiwo did not work. I dk what else to do

She's been an IS since tiny so this is hard to take...wwyd? I've read the SA FAQ but this has only affected BT ...she was fine during day...

Please help were going on hol next wed for a week in same room and I need it sorted before then!

Thank you xx

[Aishi]

She finally fell asleep at 9.05 with me holding her hand thru cot bars. She's going to be sooo ot now. Idk how I will get her out of this.

What should I do for nws and nap? Should I continue to hold her hand as that worked tonight? She is very very spirited and I'm afraid I won't be able to break prop when she gets through this...but I dk what else to do...she got hysterical with wiwo or if just sat next to her .....I even let her cry for a few min in case she was just angry at being ot but that didn't work either...

How long does SA last?

[HenaV]

Hey hon,

Big big (((hugs))) and you know they are heartfelt given what we've Ben  having with R.

Tbh, the only advice I can give (and I'm sure you're going to thin k, really!!!) is to ride it out and manage the OT the best you can. You clearly know her well enough to do that, so go with your gut.

We had the same with R one night. I too true pretty much all the same things and ended up laying with her unt she fell asleep at  10pm!!

I think your nap yesterday may have been A tad UT based on your usual day yk? Today I would aim for an early nap uncapped and EBT to give her a chance to catch up.

Hth xx

[Aishi]

Thanks hon. I'm OK with riding out the ot. Its dealing with the SA I'm freaking about! She woke at 6.15 and I tried shushing over monitor and she started crying and asking for my hand! So that's what  I've been doing but she's not asleep yet and its 7.20! Ive removed my hand and she's grumbled and gone quiet so guess I'll just have to see what happens...

Dyt I should keep holding her hand if its quickest way to get her asleep to prevent ot or preservers with wiwo even if she gets hysterical and ot? This really sucks

How are things with R? xx

Edited to add she didn't sleep so Wu was 6.15 (9h night)

What time would you do nap considering her am is usually 5.5h after a 12h night?

[jessmum46]

Hun we had a huge burst of this just as Js first second year molar came through.  Honestly we had never had anything like it before.  J is SUCH an independent sleeper but she wanted me to stay, rub her back, hold her hand and just freaked out if I tried to leave.  In the end I just went with it, stayed because that's what she needed me to do at the time.  We went right back to independent sleep once things had all settled.  If it was me I would keep offering the opportunity for her to settle alone, but if she needs you, offer that extra comfort.  SA behaviour at this age normally means something else going on in my experience. 

My only other thought would be don't be too terrified of OT.  I know she gets into a bit of a spiral sometimes but don't offer more help than she needs just in the name of preventing OT.  That's how props happen.  But comforting her though genuine distress is never the wrong thing to do xx

[Aishi]

Thanks hon. That makes me feel much better! Dyt it would help if dh put her down for nap and BT or would that make the SA worse?

[jessmum46]

I find sometimes she will go down easier for DH when she's in a clingy phase so might be worth a try.  Does DH often put her down or would it be unusual?

[Aishi]

Not often, sometimes its my sisters when they stay over and she's never minded it. So I guess I can try for nap today and Keep my fxd!

How long did it take J to get over SA? xx

[jessmum46]

It was probably between 1-2 weeks, I didn't have to be with her every night, it was on and off.  And very much teeth-related - once the molar broke through it got better rapidly.  As I said I kept giving her the chance to settle alone but where she couldn't I helped. Some days she needed me more than others.  Also I found pain meds really didn't help with the peak of the pain of back teeth, though I gave them anyway x

[Aishi]

Thanks Katherine. My sister put her down for nap and although she asked about me twice I think she's gone to sleep within 5 min.

She is teething buts its her canines. Are they as bad as molars?

Thanks ladies. I feel so much better knowing that I can help her as she needs without causing props that will be harder to break later...

[jessmum46]

We found two year molars worse but many here have found canines the hardest.  Glad she's settled - fingers crossed for a good nap x

[Emami]

Hi hun, just wanted to say we've had SA a couple of times and agree that whatever you do to get through it doesn't mean you'll be left with a prop.  Same as jessmum, my DD is a v independent sleeper and usually having us in the room is a total distraction, so when she does want it I know she really needs it, and she goes back to normal when whatever's bothering her stops bothering her! Actually I feel bad because she wanted me to stay at BT last night and I was getting a bit annoyed and thinking she was just procrastinating but it turns out she's not well Anyway, my point is there's most likely a reason for it even if she can't tell you (I guess teeth if she's getting those evil canines), and it'll probably stop like it started

[Aishi]

Thanks Emma it's really reassuring to know that others have come through unscathed. Can't wait till these canines are out!

She did a good nap 11.30-1.40 rs herself at 1. I'll get my sis to do BT for 6 if dd seems OK with it.....

Thanks all for stopping me panicking!