Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition #27

[labrodyk]

Jha65! Oh I just can't push through. Audrey loses the absolute plot and then short naps.
I'm at a loss. We've had 2 days of short naps but she is still taking the catnap if I can get her down before 5...just takes her a while. Takes her 40 minutes to fall asleep at bedtime though which is 7.30pm.

Having said that. When she sleeps 12hrs but wakes at 6 after a 1 nap day I can't keep her going. However,  after 2 nap days, a shorter night but later wake up we can make it closer to 1 nap. Can't work it out, it's horrible.

[Scottishmummy]

Are you out the other side SM?

Pretty much. Like you it just got to a point we had to push through. Now we get 1 nap around 12/12.30 for 2hrs or so. We occasionally get 2 naps if she's woken early or not slept well the previous day but if that happens we keep first nap v short.

[labrodyk]

We were at church this morning and unlike last week where she fell asleep, she was wide awake. Grumpy and visibly tired but wouldn't sleep longer than 1hr20min and woke crying. BT was just before 6pm and she honestly screamed so loud but then lay awake until just after 6.30pm. What should I do?

Thursday 4-Oct
WU: chatting at 6.40?
Nap 1: 10.15-12.00
Nap 2: 4.10; 4.40-5.00
BT: 7.30; asleep by 8.00 but still upset when I left the room.

Friday 5-Oct
WU: 7.15 / 11hrs
Nap 1: 10.20-11.53 (on me!) / 1hr30min
Nap 2: 4.20; 4.40-5.00 / 20min
BT: 7.30; asleep by 8.00pm

Saturday 6-Oct
WU: 7.00 ? / 11hrs
Nap 1: 10.20; 10.30-11.20 / 50mins
Nap 2: 3.00; 3.20-3.50/4.00
BT: 7.25; 8.10 asleep.

Sunday 7-Oct
WU: 6.45? / 10.5hrs
Nap: 12.06; 12.11 - 1.30
Woke crying.
BT: 5.50; 6.30
^ screaming like I'd cut off a limb!

[labrodyk]

Hi ladies!  How are you?

I know most of you are through the other side now and I can feel things starting to get real over here too. Not sure what is going on the last few days but the screaming has become unbearable and then at BT she proceeds to toss/turn and struggle to fall asleep quickly.

How do you think I should move forward?

Monday 7-Oct
WU: 7.00/7.30 ?
Nap: 11.20; 11.30-12.20
Nap 2.30-5.00 we were in the car but no luck.  Cried most of the journey
BT: 5.50; asleep 6.50pm.
Screamed on PD.

Tuesday 8-Oct
WU: 7.00?
Nap: 11.20; asleep by 11.30-12.48. Was awake when I checked in on her.
BT: 5.55;
Screamed again at PD,  cried and was almost asleep but then tossed and turned until 6.40!

[choc]

Is it possible she is ut for nap and ot at Bt? I know you said she seemed tired and grumpy in church but then only slept 1hr20, but it could be habitual tiredness and 1hr20 is ut for us. If it were me personally I would move to a 12 pm nap and stick to it come hell and high water. It took a month for our naps to lengthen to 2 hrs. If that isn't your style then gradually push out to 12 o'clock. I also didn't do ebt during the month of adjustment, it was 7pm regardless of nap Wu. I didn't want him to compensate for a short nap by going to bed earlier. And he doesn't tack on in the mornings either.
I know my way of doing it seems harsh but I had so much tooing and froing with ds1 that I really couldn't be doing that again. And also I had nursery to fit around. So we went for it one day when he had a decent Wu of 7am we moved straight to a 12. 30 nap (cos of nursery, I would have done 12 otherwise) and 7pm Bt. Stuck to it and now he is on a 1 til 3 nap as they started getting short again (1hr20) so moved to 12.45 for a while then that got  short,  and now 1pm. We are back to 2hr nap. Sometimes I think we worry too much. No way would I have thought that he would be on a 1pm nap at less than  14 months and less than 2 months after moving to 1 nap. But that is what he needed. Don't underestimate what they might need/can handle!

[labrodyk]

Hey Choc!

Thanks for replying hun, appreciate it.

Our 1hr20 is others 1hr30 if that makes sense as her sleep cycle is 40 minutes so I've never been sure if it's UT/OT or just right but I think you may have just given me the strength to stick to 12 and 7pm and just leave it up to the sleep God's.... With DS1 I nearly drove myself mad during this transition and I can feel the same now so I think it's time.

Will try and push through today but she woke at 6/6.15am so not sure if we'll make it. Will keep trying for a few weeks.

Thank you.
xx

[marjorie_kate]

Hi there.... I'm a FTM of a wonderful 12 mo DD who is driving me crazy!  With the time change last weekend I feel like I'm in a losing battle.  She's always slept 11.5 hrs since she started STTN.  This last week she's talked/squealed or fussed through her pm nap and shes a hot mess by BT.  The thing is that her am nap is an hour.  no matter what. 
I have no clue where to start. Help a mama out ladies!

She's 12.5 months old.
WU is typically 630-645
Am nap 1030-1100 for an hour
Pm nap 3-330 and usually 30-45 min if she falls asleep at all.
BT is 630-700 depending on naps.  I still BF at BT for about 20 min.  She often falls asleep but doesn't have to.

Up until recently we were getting at least 2 hrs of naptime and 11.5 at night which was working fine for us all.  Now I'm just at a loss and an anxious mess.  Any thoughts would be appreciated!

[labrodyk]

Hello marjorie_kate!

Sending big hugs to you and your DD - I remember what this was like with my first and it is mind boggingly horrible but everyone here has been so helpful and kind listening to my rantings for the last 3 months.

I suppose you've tried capping the morning nap to 20 minutes or so to encourage the second nap?

Your DD is doing exactly what my daughter AJ is and today I made the decision to just push as far as I could and adjust bedtime accordingly. We managed a 2hr nap from 11.20 and have put down for bed now at 6.40. Having a toss and a turn but 'hopefully' she'll go to sleep soon. I'm aiming for set nap at 12 and bedtime at 7 but treading carefully (maybe too carefully) at the moment.

WU: 6/6.15
Nap: 10.20; 10.25-1.30 at the earliest. Chatting at 1.45
BT: 6.20; fell asleep at 7.10 but then woke and tossed and turned until almost 7.30pm!

Best of luck. Here for you if you need to vent.

[labrodyk]

Hey ladies, just after a spot of help. Is there anything I'm doing or not doing that could improve the time to fall asleep at bedtime as well as our night length? The screaming at nap and bedtime is also really horrible too... It's super hard to keep pushing one nap when this is happening.

Wednesday 9-Oct
WU: 6.00/6.15
Nap: 11.20; 11.25-1.30 at earliest, chatting 1.45.
BT: 6.40; 7.20 at the earliest.

Thursday 10-Oct
WU: 6.50 at the latest.
Nap: 11.55; 12.00 - 2.15.
^ the last 40 minutes she had her eyes half open, so not sure but she wasn't moving...
BT: 6.50; 7.16- 7.17, 7.23, 7.30.
^ screamed when I left the room again.

Friday 11-Oct
WU: 6.40

[choc]

Could it  be teeth? Have you tried medicating?
I would say on the 9th Bt was a but too late but on the 10th it looked about right.
5 mins to fall asleep at nap is probably pretty normal although the screaming obviously not. Seperation anxiety?

[labrodyk]

Hi Choc!

teeth are playing a part but I'm medicating with ibuprofen before nap and before bedtime.  It's been going on for a month now. She will fuss and not calm down in my arms so I put her down and she'll roll to her side but then as I go to leave she'll roll to her tummy/sit up and start screaming. Day time it's only briefly and then she'll fall asleep but bedtime is a bit longer and then she'll toss and turn for 40 minutes!

She seems to fall asleep at bedtime but then wake every few minutes, cry out before finally settling. If this is happening then should I stick to PD at 7.00pm regardless or should I be accounting for 40 minutes of fussing so down at 6.20pm?

Friday 11-Oct
WU: 6.40
Nap: 11.52; 11.57 - 1.14pm; awake off and on until 1.40pm
^ no screaming! 😱
BT: now what?!  She cried and tried to fall asleep during school pick up.

Saturday 12-Oct
WU: 7.20
Nap 1: 10.50-11.15 (car)
Nap 2: 2.30-3.00 (car, woke crying)
BT: 6.30; screamed and kept standing up in cot. did WI/WO but not asleep until 7.30!!!!

Now when we go in the car she's crying so I'm wondering if she's OT?

[marjorie_kate]

I'm just at a loss.... DD is 12.5 mo and keeps chatting/playing through her pm nap!  Today she did fall asleep for 30 min but she was pretty OT (I think) and cried on and off for 20 min
She's also getting up anywhere from 545-630.  Is this a big range or just normal depending on bedtime?

Any help tweaking the easy to get that second nap would be so helpful. I really don't think she's ready for one nap a day, especially when she's up at 600!

WU 600, played in crib until 630
645 BF
730 breakfast
1000-1120 nap but was yawning at 945
1130 lunch
300 attempt at nap
325 asleep after playing, then crying
350 awake and BF bc she was tired/cranky
600 dinner (late sch today)
715 BF for BT
730 asleep in arms

This is the first day in 5 that she's actually taken that second nap even as short as it was. Her A time is usually 3.5-4 hrs so if she skips the pm nap the evening is very hard.  Most am naps are still an hour, if it's been 3.5 or even 4.5 hours of A time so I'm not sure what to do.
I'm also ready to drop her daytime BF, but she's wanted it the last few days even with distractions.  I don't have to, but feel like I'm ready.  Any thoughts are appreciated!

[JennVanessa1083]

Hi ladies!

Hope everyone is having a smoother transition to the 2-1.

I was wondering if anyone with insight can weigh in:

DS is about to be 18 months. He's been on one nap consistently for a little over a month. He's going through massive teething. Back to back with molars (one left to cut) and right in there are canines. I medicate at night but he is still waking 3 times a night and sometimes has a EMW and will NOT go back to sleep despite only getting 8-9hours of sleep.

Today is one of those days so I put him down at 9:15 for a CN. About to wake him. At this age what would a 2 nap day even looks like?

We were doing the following EASY:

WU 7:30-8 am
S 12:30/1pm-2:30/3pm
BT 5.25 hrs later for 1.5hr nap and 5.5 hrs to bed with a 2 he nap

Do I need a tweak maybe? Or is this just teeth? I don't know how to do my day by giving him 2naps. Ugh. Thanks!

[Tabathagucci]

Anyone out there want to commiserate on the 2-1 transition?  See that this has been quiet for a while but I could use some company in this journey!  My LO turns one in 1 week and have been struggling with the second nap for a week now.  Thinking she may be ready (or almost)  for one nap but she seems so young and I'm a bit nervous!

[Shiv52]

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