Total Sleep for babies 8months until transition to 1 nap

[*Natasha*]

Hi Guys,

Could you please share with me how much sleep your babies get for night sleep and 2 naps.
I guess i just need some reasurance as my DD from 8months has gone from 12hrs at night and 1x1.5-2hrs & 1x1.5hrs during the day to 11.5hrs at night and 1x1.5-2hrs & 1x45mins  SOMETIMES 1.15hrs.
I know alot of babies have thier bigger sleep in the PM but my DD has always slept longer in the morning. Limiting her AM nap just makes her grumpy.
I always said she would do the transition to 1 nap before 12months, is this just the slow process to that transition.

TIA Everyone 

[Mia & Scarlett's Mummy]

Hi there Natasha!

It seems we're kind of in the same place - so is Catherine sleeping till 7am now?  Lucky you if she is, I'm still getting 5.30am wake up calls!

Mia's nap routine has radically changed just recently.  If possible I no longer let her sleep past 3pm anymore and I think we are well on the way to one nap.  In fact I know if she slept till 7am I could get her by on one big nap at lunchtime.

At the mo she currently has 30 mins in the morning around 9am and then up to 2 hours from 12.30/1.00pm for her second nap, although she tends just to take 1.5hours.

So we are now right down to 2.25 hours most days with 10-11 hours at night.

[Jaime]

if it helps.... i know lots of babies who have their longer nap in the morning & a shorter one in the afternoon.  i don't understand it, but it does indeed happen.  other than that, i agree with what Louise said about the slow transition to one nap (we're only just about there & luke's almost 16 months)!   

[*Natasha*]

Thanks for that guys.

Louise how are you? I was just thinking the other day i hasn't seen you around for a while.
Glad to see i am not alone in this. Yes DD does sleep until 7am now most morning sometimes 6.45am the other day she slept until 7.30am  DH recons we should try DD on the one sleep a day but i am worried she will get overtired and not sleep long enough for that one sleep. You said Mia onyy does 30mins in the morning do you wake her after that time or does she wake herself?
This is how our day looks so far:

7am - Wake
10am - Sleep 1.5-2hrs
3pm - Sleep 45mins
7.15/30pm - Bed

I think i could strech her out till close to 11am but then she wouldn't have lunch until around 2.30pm and her bottle?
Ideally i would prefer to wait until 11/12months i am thinking closer to 11months will be the big move to 1 nap.

[Deb_in_oz]

to me your routine looks fab! my only question woudl be how is she in the afternoons - if she is not grumpy/cranky/crying i woudl say this works for her. olivia was having A time from 2:30/3pm until 7 at that age. she moved to one nap at 11 mo and was fine.  i would think that a child who happily goes down at 7ish and does 12 hours overnight is doing REALLY well.

[*Natasha*]

Hey Deb,

I was hoping you would respond as i know you did the 2-1 move early. Catherine wakes up fine after her PM nap and is fine going to bedtime of 7.15/30pm. What made you do the transition to 1 nap early?

[Deb_in_oz]

around 10 mo even if i woke liv from morning nap at 45 min the afternon became tricky and i could not figure out when to do 2nd nap without dramas so Dh suggested we try 1 nap and it went well (it took me 2 weeks to trust it though) being spirited i think liv was born to be a toddler - 1 nap suits her lifestyle so well (play all day with a forced break for sleep LOL)

[*Natasha*]

Yes my DD has always been in a big hurry to grow up as well 
My DH actually said to me today that we should start moving towards 1 nap but my issues are:

When do i give her lunch?
When do i give afternoon bottle (hoping to drop this soon anyway)
What if she doesn't sleep long enough for it?

Sorry i am sure you are sick of answering these questions i am sure you have been asked so many times. I have been wanting to PM you to ask your opinion but didn't want to bug you 

[Deb_in_oz]

gosh - never a bother - PM m e or IM me anytime...

there is a thread in nap or general sleep i answered about a 10.5 mo old going to 1 nap and wrote a lot more details there, but to answer your questions

1. i give lunch at 11-11:30 depending on day and how hungry the kids are (today liv ate poorly at breakfast which is quite common for her and was grazing since 10am and i sat them down for lunch before 11 for a change). we always start lunch by 11:30
2. i would have to check when we dropped afternoon bottle but i think it was around 9-10 mo and the nap change was at 11 mo - if you go to 1 nap and stil lhave afternoon bottle i woudl just do it after waking up. currently we do bottle after breakfast on days she asks (was 8:30 until 2 weeks ago), bottle at 12:30/1 and bottle before bed
3. it is a total crap shoot. it took liv less than 2 weeks to settle into naps of minimum 1hr30 and usually is 2hr 15-2hr 30 and occasionally 3 hrs. some moms on the jan/feb thread took more like a month or more to get longer naps. don't know until you try  also - for a month or so liv added to her overnight sleep on days when she took 1hr 30-2hr naps so added an extra hour overnight. these days she does 2-3hrs daytime and 11 overnight.

in the beginning we kept her up to 12:30 and eventually it moved to 1pm or later. she woudl never nap if i let her play all day so i have to drag her off to her room by 1pm and chill out with a bottle. some people move gradually - for us it was better to go straight form having a nap at 9:30 to shifting it to 12:30 - i don't know why but it worked for her. in between that was overtiredness, but if we waited long enough she got 2nd wind and was happier staying up.

[*Natasha*]

Thank you so much for all that Deb. I did manage to find the other post you replied to and read over it and answered alot as well.
Thanks for saying i can PM you i may do that over the next few weeks if i have anymore questions.

[Mia & Scarlett's Mummy]

Hi Natasha

What I've been doing is waking her up after 30 mins in the morning to ensure a good afternoon nap, I was worried that she may be overtired come early evening otherwise..............however, looking at your routine and how well it's working for Catherine I might just try leaving her and switching the long nap to the morning.

BTW I'm typing this at 5am, dd woke at 4.20am........fingers crossed I've got her back to sleep..............am I really qualified to be a moderator I ask myself!!

[*Natasha*]

I think you do a great job just because we are moderators doesn't mean we have perfect babies ourselves although that would be nice 
I hope Mia went back to sleep for you again.
Well we finally broke through the 45min monster this afternoon she did 1.15hrs for AM and PM nap and 11.5hrs at night so i am much happier  Lets hope she keeps this up (fingers crossed).
Yes Catherine much prefers her AM nap to be longer than PM like most babies and is happy waking at 3.30/4pm and going through until 7.15/30pm for bed.