So - do some babies just sleep a certain length of time no matter what time you put them to bed, as opposed to having a wake-up time? My LO has had a night wakigng problem for months now. I've moved her bedtime up a couple times, and every time I do this, it gets harder and harder to get her to sleep to a decent later time. It eliminates the ridiculously early waking, but she actually wants to wake ealier and earlier to start the day. When her bedtime was 8, she had a 5 AM early waking that would sometimes last over an hour... however, she'd finally go back to sleep, and then I'd wake her at 8 (although, sometimes, she would wake herself at 7:30/45). When I moved her bedtime to 7:30, just to see if it would help the early waking, she woke for 2 sec. at 5 but then was ready to start the day at 7. I tried one more move to 7:00 and the 5 am waking went a way for a day or 2, but she wanted to play at 6:30! So - are some babies totally against the rule that they wake up at a certain time and instead, they only want to sleep a certain length? I'm soooooooooooo frustrated with this. I was all excited, ready to try some techniques... then I got depressed. I rarely have to actually wake my baby in the morning.... she's already awake! Moms who say that the simply wake they're baby at a different time for the time change.... well - I envy them. My baby usually is awake, and then I pick a time when I'm willing to go to her.... so she's pretty exhausted by the time I start the day. Last night she woke up 1/2 a dozen times - each time she put herself to sleep, but then she wanted to start the day @ 5:30! GAH! Do I just have to have a later bedtime with my child? *annoyed*