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What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« on: October 07, 2006, 00:06:30 am »
Reason i ask this is we are trying to get DD to sleep independently and its taking a loooong time. Last night, she cried/screamed for 4 hours until we kinda gave up and did a bit of a feed (thought it was growth spurt) and a bit of a sway. She could have gone on all night I think.

So, misery breeds company they say, what was the longest crying session you've had to face in teaching your LO to sleep?
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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2006, 00:11:27 am »
Major Colic here for the first 3 months.  8 hrs of non stop screaming in my arms, pausing only long enough to feed, then starting again.  It went from 6pm in the evening til 2am in the morning.  Needless to say, with DH at work on night shift, me all alone with no family within 10 hrs drive, I too was crying by then.

Hope it gets better soon.

For such a long cry and because your baby is older, I would be inclined to give herself a time limit of going to sleep independantly then leave the room and distract til calm, then start again.  No baby is going to fall asleep if they are busy screaming.

 :-* :-* it will get better.
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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2006, 01:17:24 am »
We did 12 hours w/ breaks to feed every hour or so just to make sure she wasn't hungry.  She was 10 wks and we were moving her out of our bed into her own.  Me and DH tag teamed.  We almost gave up but knew that this was the best thing for her because she was only getting around 8 hrs of sleep during a 24-hr period.  She would start to calm down and start entering into stage 2 or 3, we'd put her in the crib and *bam* her eyes would fly open and she would start screaming again.  She finally passed out at 1am and had been crying since 1pm. 

I promise it gets better.  Each day/night got a little better after that.  I will say, that shh-pat didn't work for Mimi.  We had to modify.  I think the most important thing is making sure that they're awake when you put them in the crib.  I agree with pp about leaving the room after awhile.  Looking back, I probably should have taken her out of the room for a little bit...
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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2006, 01:22:24 am »
I do think a break for baby and mum is necessary.  Otherwise when baby falls alseep it isn't really cause they worked out independant sleep, but fell asleep from exhaustion. That is what used to happen to me.
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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2006, 19:10:50 pm »
Oh yes, Sleep training is HARD stuff for sure!  I am glad that our babies know that we will never leave them alone during their crying while we are using the pupd or pat shh tools.  It's unfortunate that sleep training invloves alot of crying, but it does :'(

Taking breaks is a choice you make - for naps we take a break and start agian.  At night, Tracy felt it best we have at it until sleep is achieved.  If you choose to break during it, naturally that is your choice.  Breaking to soothe with a prop is not recommended however as it sends mixed messages and tends to make all the previous crying useless.

I am glad things worked out for you Rinajack - I just wanted to add my opinion.  Even if baby falls asleep from exhaustion while using a traning method, I feel it does count toward the teaching of indep sleep, as baby fell asleep without a prop.  In my experience and as stated it gets better each time - taking less and less time and crying.  So baby won't fall asleep from exhaustion each time.  ;D

Sleep traning is so hard, but so worth it after it's done.  Big Hugs hunny, I know you are having a rough time - it will get better them more you stick with it.

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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2006, 19:20:07 pm »
???  Hello.  I'm new to BW.  I'm a little confused... when are we supposed to let them cry?  Maybe I've missed something, I've only read "Secrets of the BW"... are there more details in the "BW solves all your problems"?  Sh/P doesn't work for my little Eva either and I couldn't figure out how to get her to sleep without her crying for a while.  Suggestions?  Thanks.
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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2006, 19:22:47 pm »


I have done a few 11 hr night screaming sessions due to reflux though, he took to the sleep training very well once we got the reflux under control
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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2006, 20:53:34 pm »
Hi Joy;

Welcome!

I think the important part missing in the title of this thread is that the Mom is using pat/shh or some variation of it to teach her baby how to sleep.  There is some crying involved with sleep training however, BW believes in never leaving baby alone to cry - ever.  We do wait for a proper cry however, that is - we don't go rushing in for a mantra cry or a fuss type of cry - but we do always believe in tending to a real cry, supporting baby and using pat/shh or whatever method you are using to teach sleep.

If you are having trouble with getting pat/shh to be effective for your LO, perhaps start a new topic and include your Easy routine, how old your LO is and any props you are using - and I am sure you will get some great help!  Here is a link to the pat/shh thread to get you started:  https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=26672.0

Just to say again, BW believes in never leaving baby alone to cry - we stay with baby, guiding, supporting, and teaching.

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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2006, 21:13:16 pm »
I did walk in walk out for 3 hours from 7-10pm then the horrorbag woke again at 2am and I did Walkin-walkout until 6am until she finally went to sleep and I got into bed and my alarm clock went of at 630am.  That was the worse night of my life but it did the trick and it was all downhill from then on.  The horrorbag is now my sweet, sleepy little angel.
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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2006, 21:26:54 pm »
Hi, it's me Again!  ;D

Just so there is no confusion for any new people, walk in/walk out is a sleep method used strictly for toddlers.  I just didn't want anyone to look for, or try to use it because it is not appropriate for babies under 1.

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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2006, 21:31:39 pm »
sorry, didn't mean to confuse, just wanted to share how long it took me. and how proud I am that we got through it.  Should have explained more, sorry again.  :-[
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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2006, 21:39:20 pm »
Thanks Zoey!  You confirmed what I thought to begin with... never leaving baby alone to cry.  This post just confused me, but now I see that when baby is over tired they have to cry.  This explanes why Eva (6 weeks) will even cry like crazy in my arms.   I have started a topic under general sleep problems.  Thanks again for the clarification that this was for toddlers.

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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2006, 21:44:17 pm »
No, no Mari its ok - I just don't want anyone thinking its something for every situation, that's all  ;) :-*

Joy, I am positive you will great some GREAT help with your routine!  At 6weeks, the biggest trouble is, as you said - overtiredness!  I am sure it will all work out great!  Congrats on your new baby and happy whisperering!

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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2006, 21:50:46 pm »
I think this thread has reached the end of it's usefulness, so I am locking it.  Please feel free to start new threads about specific sleep issues.  If you just need a vent, The Couch is very comfy, and has room for all.     ;)
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Re: What's the longest crying session at sleep you've endured??
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2006, 17:01:22 pm »
ladies,

to further clarify things.... walk in/walk out can be done with babies or toddlers, but the method is not the same for each age group and is typically not done before 8-10 months of age.   if you want more information, you can read about it in the General sleep FAQ (under separation anxiety) or the Toddler Sleep FAQ.
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