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our LO comes to our room during the night!!!
« on: May 11, 2007, 10:43:53 am »
Hi everyone!
I've been posting questions about my little LO but now it's becoming urgent to solve my older LO problem!
He's 2 years and a half and I have to admit that he had always problems with his sleep!  Only after he was 2yrs he started to sleep the whole night regularly...  Putting him to sleep has also been a problem, which now, fortunately, is solved!  We created a nice routine and with a lot of patience, we finally taught him how to fall asleep on his own.

Since a couple of weeks ago he started to get out of his bed and come to our room in the middle of the night!!!  Having a 9wks old baby to look at you can imagine how shocking it was to deal with the older one's lack of sleep!
I don't know if it is related to the new brother, which it seemed to accept quite well!

Any suggestions on how to deal with him?

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Re: our LO comes to our room during the night!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2007, 17:46:01 pm »
It could be to do with his new brother.

I presume that he is in a bed rather than a cot?  You should take him back to bed and do whatever you do when you put him there for bedtime and leave.  Hopefully he will soon get the message.
During the day, make up for it by extra, extra time for him whenever you can (I am sure that you do) it may seem that he is coping with his brother during the day but then at night he is perhaps feeling a little left out beause his brother gets to sleep with mum and dad.  Allow him to help with his brother whenever he can, fetching nappies, helping to bath him, playing with him whilst mummy does a chore etc.
Emphasise that fact the he is a big boy and soon his little brother will be big enough to move to his own room.
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Re: our LO comes to our room during the night!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2007, 19:59:16 pm »
luaidos-(((hugs)))to you.  I agree with Mari, but actually wanted to ask...how did you get him going to sleep on his own?  My DS is also a terrible sleeper and at 25 months, I still struggle with bedtimes and NW.  Wondering if you did something different than you had previously...or did he just suddenly "get it".  Everyone I know keeps saying, he'll get it soon.  ummm, i don't think so.  I know I have to do something about it, but have tried gradual withdrawl and wi/wo, both are exhausting and don't seem to work :(
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2007, 13:11:09 pm »
Mari, yes he sleeps in a bed.  We transfered him from his cot to a new bed much before the little one was born.
And, yes, we give him A LOT of attention!  All our time is dedicated to our children, we play a lot with the older one, sometimes a go out with him alone...
Some times I tried to make him help me, but the results were not often nice:  once he took the diaper away from me and took it to another room!  Most of the time he doesn't seem to be interested in what I do to his little brother, the only thing he wants is to play with someone (he just can't play alone! but this I'll post in another board...)
Anyway, I'll follow your advice!


Dear Colesmom, how I understand you!
To tell you the truth, as I didn't know the BW, and I had never heard about the method wi/wo, I used a "desperation" method...  I just left him in the room crying!  As I'm sure you understand me, I was desperate, thinking that soon I would have had a newborn at home and the thought of staying with the older one for more than 1 hour to make him sleep was really impossible!  So, I said to my husband that, first of of all, we should be consistent, we should do exactly the same thing:  taking him to bed, singing his favorite songs (he doesn't appreciate reading stories at bed and he's a great singer!   ;) ), then kissing him and saying he should take a rest and that tomorrow would be a great day, etc, etc.  I have to say that I found that talking about the things we'll do the following day help a lot!
Then, believe me, after only ONE WEEK, the problem was solved!  Obviously he cried for a while but then he fell asleep on his own.  Of course that, one day when he was crying desperately, we entered the room, calmed him down and then left again.  But be prepared to listen to him crying...

From my experience, even regarding discipline problems, I found that if both parents follow the same education pattern, it helps a lot!  We got wonderful results when me and my husband set down and talked quietly about his behavior and what to do about his education.  He is now very under control and much more obedient.  Even if some times he still makes us go crazy... He's always in the "terrible twos", so, we can't expect too much!

hope my experience helps!

PS-sorry about my english, I'm portuguese...

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Re: our LO comes to our room during the night!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2007, 14:22:37 pm »
What do you do when he comes in your room in the middle of the night? Does he sleep the rest of the night there? How do you respond? Just curious as it may help in giving you a plan moving forward.

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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2007, 14:43:38 pm »
well.. I have to admit I get a bit angry, but I try to control myself as much as possible and I don't shout at him.
I only tell him that it is still very early and that he has to go back to sleep for a while.  Sometimes he asks for his milk, but I don't think he's really hungry, so I (or my husband) take him to his room. Usually we stay there for a while but last night I took him there, calmed him down and let him there crying... After 2mins he was quietly sleeping.
We NEVER let him sleep in our bed!
Waiting for your suggestions...

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Re: our LO comes to our room during the night!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2007, 17:27:54 pm »
That's great, so long as you are giving as much attention as possible throughout the day, then you have no reason to feel any guilt during the night so with a clear conscience you can take him right back into his own bed and tuck him in, kiss him, then leave.
I wouldn't let him cry alone though, I would do WIWO, you wouldn't want him to feel abandoned whilst he is going throught this difficult stage, I know that it was only 2 minues, but that is quite a long time for him.  Ensure that you are there for him, and let him know that you are.

Getting angry is ok, it's the way that we deal with the anger that counts.  We all get angry, especially at 2am when we are desperate for sleep, but try to stay calm and remember that they are needing you to help them to sleep and it's up to you to help him learn.

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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2007, 07:54:59 am »
you're right, 2 mins are a lot for him...  you know, having to manage a 2 months old baby plus a 2 1/2 year old that doesn't sleep is really hard!  I'll try the wi/wo (where can I find info about it?) method but I just hope it really works out... I'm so tired...   :'(

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Re: our LO comes to our room during the night!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2007, 08:06:50 am »
It is hard.  The work of a new baby is a lot to cope with anyway.  Take all the help that you can get and get to bed as early as possible.  That's the only advice that I can give to help you to cope better.

Here is the link for Gradual withdrawal and WIWO.  I hope that it helps.  Keep us updated.  We are all here for you and will support you as much as possible.

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2007, 11:15:23 am »
Thanks Mari!
I have one doubt concerning wi/wo:  I noticed that, after kissing him and saying he has to go back to sleep, as soon as I walk towards the door, he starts crying.  What should I do in this situation?  Get out of the room and enter immediately or go back to him? Cause when I go back to him he calms down but starts crying once more when he realizes I'm leaving the room.
Any suggestions?

Concerning the help... well, I live far away from "home", I have no relatives and no available friends that can help me in this city.  I guess I have to count on myself and my husband (when he's at home).   I'm sure everything will go well, the love towards our children is the biggest source of energy!

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Re: our LO comes to our room during the night!!!
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2007, 12:42:41 pm »
When he cries, still leave the room, count to 10 then go to him. 
As long as it's a cry that is saying 'Don't leave me', then you are saying to him, 'I am not leaving, I am here if you need me'