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Could these NW be due to cold?
« on: June 03, 2007, 17:56:06 pm »
Hi everyone! Not posted for a while as we've been having great naps and night sleeping and only had NW with teething when I have given med and  16 mo DS has gone straight back to sleep.

 However, since he got a cold on Thursday (not a real bad one either) he's been waking from naps after 45 mins - 1 hr and really crying - something he's never done before - I tried PD but he would not be pacified and I have ended up having to get him up.

 It's also happened at night too. Could it really be the cold?  Previously, when NWs have been due to teething he just wakes frequently whimpering as if something is bothering him until I give med and then he sleeps. But these past few nights he is really crying as if he's in pain. We're still waiting for the 2nd bottom molar and then the eye teeth.

Although it could be teeth, it's a bit of a coincidence that all this started with the cold - we've never had NW with a cold before. Also, I don't want to give med if I'm not sure what the problem is - kwim?

If he does the same tonight, I think I may take him to the doctors tomorrow - but in your experience what could it be? I really don't want to start the frequent night wakings - I thought we were doing so well!
Be grateful for your thoughts.....
Lis



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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2007, 21:54:20 pm »
He may have an ear infection or a sore throat  :(
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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2007, 22:31:44 pm »
When Alex cut her eye teeth she had cold like symptoms.  Runny nose and chesty breathing.  I used one of those plug in vapour thingies to ease the congestion.

Hope she feels better soon.

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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 05:00:15 am »
Thanks girls.
 We had the same again last night - he woke at 12 and there was just no consoling him. DH seems to think it's teeth...
 Last night we tried teething gel and herbal powder but nothing helped at all. The only thing that helps is med but I don't want to give med every day - it says on the box no more than 3 days running.
 Does anyone give med for more than 3 days? Realistically, how long should you have a break from it before starting again?
Going to the doctors today just to rule out ear infection and sore throat - but other than naps and NWs he's fine?????
Thanks again girls,
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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2007, 10:50:35 am »
Ask the doc about giving meds, how long intervals between 3 days.  TBH I have never needed to give them longer than 3 days.

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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 11:25:59 am »
I forgot to say that last night when he woke he had filled his nappy - it was a packet!! It was a lot looser than normal (although not diahorea) and had a kind of cheesy smell (sorry for the details!). Is this a sign of teething? I've read that diarrea is common with teething and that there is often an 'unmistakable smell'?
What did you give Alex for the nasty teeth?
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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2007, 16:16:14 pm »
Yep - Colin always has similar diapers when teething.  ::)  Disgusting!!
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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2007, 20:17:25 pm »
When Alex cut her really bad teeth (eye teeth and she has cut one of her back molars) I gave Neurofen, don't know if you can get that in Greece. A dentist recommended it as it has anti inflamitory.  Ask your doctor about it, as it's not always suitable for everyone, especially if the child is a little chesty.
You can also get teething powders here.  It tends to settle an uspet tummy and as they are herbal based, they are gentler than medicines, It says on the packet that you can use them longer.
With teething, I have noticed that Alex will have two really  bad days and nights and then shi is back to normal.  Her signs are runny poo (sorry!) Red cheeks, grissly crying and clingy, runny nose.  When she was younger she used to dribble a lot, but she hasn't done that for a while now.  All children are different though, watch for the signs and see what you think.
Where in Greece are you BTW?

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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2007, 19:04:13 pm »
Thanks girls! It's definitely teeth then!
Can't get Neurofen here, but I could get mum to post some. I would have to check with the health visitor in the UK as our doc here doesn't speak or read English to check the ingredients! TBH, I only take DS to docs if I can't help it - usually for just vacs - thankfully he's a really healthy child! They have funny ideas here!
I've got Medised that a friend sent, which is really effective but I am wary about using that for more than 3 days due to the 'sed' bit! Sure works thou!

We're in Aegina - the closest island to Piraeus and Athens. Were you a rep in Kos Mari? I came here on holiday in 1994 and met DH and have been here 13 years!! I do go back home (U.K!) as often as possible.

Jessica - Nicholas was born in Dec 2005, so just a bit younger than Colin - is Colin talking much yet? I'm curious whether Nicholas will be a late talker as he's got both languages. He only says Mama, Dada, cat, cow and tries to say Grandma and Pebbles (our dog) . Also, is Colin still having a bottle of milk am and pm? and what do you do when Colin is teething and NW?
Sorry for all the questions!
Thanks,
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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2007, 19:20:12 pm »
Lis, when I worked in Kos there were lots of Bilingual children and lots of them seemed to speak just the one language to start with and then caught up with the other language when they grew confident, but all were fluent in both when they got going.  You are giving him a great start teaching him the both languages and as a lot of the English language has Greek origins he should find it all quite easy when he grasps it.  ;)
As for the medicines, Calpol, Medised and Neurofen all say that they should not be used longer than 3 days.
You can buy neurofen over the counter here and it comes in bottles or 5ml sachets.  Ask your mum to send some sachets and the little leaflet so that you can have a good read before giving it.  I use it for Earache and teething.  I only use medised if they have a cold as it decongests them and seems to help them sleep.  I rarely use calpol, only if I have nothing else and they are ill but tbh they are rarely ill except for those blooming teeth!  ::)

As for the milk, Alex still has a bottle of milk at bedtime (with her story, never to fall asleep with!!)  and she would have more in the morning if I let her.  but I do cheat with naps sometimes and give her a bottle to fall asleep with, being a childminder it is difficult to be with her if she is resisting naps, and she does a lot of that these days!  ::)

Not saying that it should be done though, I just go for an easy life some days!!

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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2007, 19:58:26 pm »
Quote from: lissybits
Jessica - Nicholas was born in Dec 2005, so just a bit younger than Colin - is Colin talking much yet? I'm curious whether Nicholas will be a late talker as he's got both languages. He only says Mama, Dada, cat, cow and tries to say Grandma and Pebbles (our dog) . Also, is Colin still having a bottle of milk am and pm? and what do you do when Colin is teething and NW?

At his 18 mo checkup, the doc expected that Colin would have 15 words. At first I was  :o thinking no way he was close to 15, but then when I actually counted I realized he had that or pretty close. So I guess he's pretty much on track but he's definitely not excelling with talking. Boys are usually slower with talking than girls so that's ok as long as they're getting there, KWIM? Plus from what I understand bilingual babies like yours may be a bit slower as well since they're learning two words for every one, essentially.

No bottles here, for a long time now actually. I was gearing up for weaning to a sippy, but one day when he was about 13 mo he totally refused it and pointed to his cup. So there it was, no more bottles.

Teething and NW...  :(  It wasn't fun for any of us, at all. Colin got all his teeth in batches of at least two at a time, but most often 4.  :o  Plus he's one where they go up and down before they actually come through, so teething was always a very long process. I found that Motrin did the most for him and lasted the longest. I used orajel when it was really bad, but TBH it never seemed to really do the trick. During the day, I'd offer him frozen peas or blueberries and he LOVED that, it seemed to help a lot.
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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2007, 20:36:16 pm »
How many LOs do you look after Mari? You must have the patience of a saint and the energy of I don't know what!!
I have also used the bottle at nap time if needed - usually if we've been out and nap is late - it always works. But normally I am a stickler to the clock!
DS is still waking at night in real pain - nothing consoles him so I have given Panadol and for more than 3 nights too unfortunately. What should I do? He doesn't even want to be held and I have to walk around on the landing with him to distract him to stop him crying, Should I just walk around until he gets tired? There's no way I can leave him in the cot as he's too distressed but I don't want to start AP again - just trained him out of that!
If I give herbal powder, how long before it works roughly?

Jessica - was thinking of you at 1.30am last night! I gave DS frozen peas as he was absolutely inconsolable - he stopped crying and had a good suck on the peas! I looked in the supermarket today for any frozen berries - nothing! They have a very limited selection of frozen and convenience foods here in Greece - all  Greek women are fab cooks!
It's funny cos DS never cries during the day.....
Have you ever given med more than 3 days? This is what is really worrying me.
Thanks again girls,
Lis



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Re: Could these NW be due to cold?
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2007, 03:27:05 am »
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Jessica - was thinking of you at 1.30am last night! I gave DS frozen peas as he was absolutely inconsolable - he stopped crying and had a good suck on the peas! I looked in the supermarket today for any frozen berries - nothing! They have a very limited selection of frozen and convenience foods here in Greece - all  Greek women are fab cooks!

Glad I could help  ;)  I have definitely given meds for more than 3 days, I would have killed for only needing to do it 3 days.
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