help with sleeptraining

[cutebutsneaky]

hello again out there!
i  have been going with the gentle removal plan for the last 3 weeks.
i am at a point where i put baby to sleep awake and can soothe her in cot most of the time with shh and holding her hand.
most nights are like this..
7.00 bed
7.30 asleep
8.30 awake..shh
11-12 awake bf
2.00 awake short bf, pull out- sometimes can shh
3.30 awake short bf pullout-sometimes shh works
5.00awake
6.00 awake
she has 2 day naps morn 9.30-10.30/11 and 1.30-3 ish
i have looked at bfeeding her more during day and more calories
tried tweaking the night routine of shhing her, but gentle removal if crying continues.
what else can i do??
is it time to try pupd?
should i try to feed her only once during the night and the rest pupd?
we thought she might be having growth spurt.has 2 teeth thru and teething alot
thanks

[Layla]

How many times & how often are you breastfeeding her at the moment. How long are the feeds? Does she fall asleep independantly at nap times or do you BF her to sleep then? Does she sleep the whole 1.5hrs at nap times without you interfering?

[cutebutsneaky]

hi and thanks for your reply
yes she sleeps independently at nap times., only occasionally in the afternoon do i give her a small xtra bf but she then settles awake.
im on the easy so she takes naps after play and falls asleep on her own.she sleeps the whole 1.5 hrs till i wake her
ive learnt her signals , ie grizzle/fuss or the 1st yawn.great during day.
i bf her approx 6 times a day as suggested i try to bf her more..
usually 5-8 mins each side.or untill she isnt obviously drinking .
at night i shh her unless she makes a fuss or wont settle .in which case i pick her up until she stops mewing, then put down.
i wonder if im being a little tooooo gentle.should i blend the pupd a bit more into the night wakings
oh by the way she is 7 months

[Layla]

I would do pu/pd rather than let her have a short bf as this will only make her think she "needs" the breast to get back to bed. I would let her fuss, etc.. & only go to her when she sounds like she is really needing you & distressed cry. Then go in & do pu/pd or shh/pat (whatever works) but don't stay there long enough for her to fall asleep. Once you see her settling down (mantra crying) then leave her. She might still need a feed at night so I wouldn't be eliminating all feeds but I don't think she needs to drink at 2 or 3am when she's had a good feed at 11-12pm. Try not to feed her again until the early morning (if she wakes) & then work on eliminating that one as well (or the 11-12am feed).

Have you started solids yet/has she shown interest in eating solids?

[cutebutsneaky]

thanks for your reply
i still have some energy in there somewhere and will try the pupds
yes she is having solids.so i bf her first then solids 30 mins to hr later.esp interested in breakfast and dinner
i know theres alot going on in her so im being patient but its good to know i should try pupd

wish me luck!!!

[Layla]

Good luck!!! keep me posted

[KECA]

Good luck!
You are obviously a very caring Mom.  Here's hoping your LO can learn to sleep better throughout the night with your training.

[cutebutsneaky]

 
hi layla!
let me know what you think..
had terrible night the night before.really messed up and fed her every time out of exhaustion.felt really useless.
then reread pupd notes and sleep interview to reform what i needed to do
read for her age..7months..one doesnt need to pick up.but try to calm in cot
so last night i did that and each time bar the feed she settled after 5/10 mins of shhh and hand on chest !!!!!!!!!!!!
7.30 bed
9.00 A shh
11.15 A shhh
12.30 A BF
3.45 A shh
5.00 A shhh
5.30 A BF
7.30 A FOR THE DAY
should i continue on this and see what happens or try to not feed till later in morn
it wasnt tooo bad and although she woke alot she responded well to shh and hand
I FELT IN CONTROL!!!!
XX
 

[Layla]

You know exactly what to do!!! Space the feeds out like you have - do not feed her if she's up say 5hrs before her last feed. Baby steps.... Then you can work on eliminating the midnight feed & finally the early morning feed (which I found was the very last one to go as well with my girls). Pu/pd is really the last resort so if she's responding well to shh/pat the continue to do that. try not to stay with her until she is asleep. Once you see her settling down, leave her so you don't become a prop during all this.

Thanks for the update - you'll get there