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Really need help with pm/ early night
« on: August 12, 2007, 17:00:41 pm »
Ds is almost 7 weeks old. Our days are pretty good and nights too, but he will not settle for bed at night. I think our afternoon may need some tweaking but I am at a loss as to how and where.
Our typical days go like this
Yesterday
A/E 8.00
S 9.20/9.30
A/E 11.00( reflux meds)
S 12.30
14.30 A/E
15.50 S
16.30 A/E only 60ml
17.40 S
18.40 A and E around 19.00 ( reflux meds) only 90 ml
20.00 Bed but no sleep

Today
7.30 A/E
9.00 S ( 2 hours as were in car)
11.00 E( reflux meds)
12.25 S
13.30 Woke, picked up to soothe and back to sleep
14.30 A/E
15.50 S
16.50 A ( Woke him) E 60 ml
17.50 S ( in buggy)
18.30 A woke by himself, reflux meds, bath
19.00 E only 90 ml
19.30 S
By 20.20 I thought I had him asleep, was holding him down through the jolts.
He is able for about 1hr 20 wake up time during the day, any sooner he wont sleep, he has no tired signs, I know his tired cry and I put him to bed and thats it, the odd time he cries for about 30 seconds but more often not.
All his bottles are about 110 except for the ones mentioned, if I give him a bigger bottle around 5 then he wont eat before bed time.
Late night feed is around 10 or 10.30 pm and in bed for 11 or 11.30. Usually wakes around 4 and sometimes can take an hour to settle.
We believe he has colic but nothing seems to help it. 2 hours after original bed time and he is now screaming in dhs arms  :-[

Would love someones insight on our schedule, I really need some time in the evening, this is when dd needs me most, dh is here to help out at the moment but leaves on a business trip on Sat for 6 long days.

Fiona
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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 19:02:02 pm »
Do you think he might be OT by the end of the day or do you think his reflux might be acting up?

How does he go down for his naps? 

How much day time sleep does he get (all together)?

Also at around 6 weeks (give or take) they usually go through a growth spurt, could you lo be hungrier at bedtime?  Have you tried feeding right before laying him down?

Sorry for the questions, but wanted to make sure I got your incite into things first.


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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 19:14:01 pm »
hugs I'm in the same boat and I have NO idea!!! tbh I think babies are just fussi in the evenings, maybe there isnt one 'concrete' reason which we can fix , we just haev to accept it..i know not very helpful!
what i found worked with DS was a catanp RIGHT BEFORE bath/bed so that he was rested enough to go to sleep if that makes sense? he tired easily at that age and a quick whizz round the block in the stroller worked wonders. I would then wake up, bathe and bed
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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 19:19:08 pm »
I agree some lo's have their fussy time in the evenings.  I would just make sure he goes down before becoming OT as that will only cause more fussiness and crying and such.

If I remember correctly, I think at around this age Grace took her nap, woke, bottle, bath, bottle and then straight to bed pretty much....same as yaya. 

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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 19:41:06 pm »
How does he go down for his naps?  Going down for naps is pretty easy, after approx 1hr 15/20 mins he will do his sleepy cry and I take him up stairs, chatting softly to him, swaddle him and put him into bed. Occasionally he will cry for about 30 seconds not always straight away sometimes it can be after 10 mins. Sometimes he does not make it past an hour and I put him down straight away.

How much day time sleep does he get (all together)? Between 5 and 6 hours

Also at around 6 weeks (give or take) they usually go through a growth spurt, could you lo be hungrier at bedtime?  Have you tried feeding right before laying him down? No I havent tried this yet. Yesterday he ate at 16.30 then at 19.00 had only a small bottle, 90 ml.

Tonight he had a nap from 17.50 until 18.30( he had only been awake an hour and had done a 45 min nap before, then meds, bath, bottle and bed by 19.30 so I dont think he was over tired. I give his meds after his 11 am bottle as he seems better in the am, after the afternoon bottle and before his evening one.

He had a bottle at 22.00, 2.5 hours after his original bedtime and I put him to bed by 22.30. He accepted the dodi for 10 seconds( wont usually take it) spit it out, yelled 1 and slept.
He has a lot of gas and fights with his swaddle, infacol does nothing to help him-

I really think our afternoons need to be restructered and that may help as I feel they are a bit of a mess but just dont know what to fix.

Michelle I know you have been having similar problems, hope things are improving for you. Cant wait to do the walk in stroller but its just so hot and humid here, we did get out for half an hour this pm but it was disgusting.

Thanks Ladies
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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2007, 20:59:47 pm »
45 minute naps usually mean they are in need of more A time.  Do you think that might help to lengthen that nap?
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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2007, 04:14:13 am »
I honestly dont know any more. He did an hour nap after which I woke him so that we could fit in the 45 min nap before bedtime, I thought that the cat nap should be 45 mins. So he did 2 hours, 2 hours, 1 hour, 45 mins.
He woke at 3.10 had a bottle and was back in bed by 3.45. Woke at 7.10 had a bottle and was asleep on his play mat by 7.45 and nothing was wakening him, it looks like he was treating the 7 am wake up as night time.
So looks like there is going to be no structure to today at all. Not feeling too good about the whole thing today  :-[ and it's only 8.15 am



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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2007, 14:22:23 pm »
I won't be able to get back until until later this evening, so I've pmed the other EASY mods. Hopefully one of us will be able to take a closer look at things today and help you and your precious lo out some. :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2007, 00:37:31 am »
My 2 cents would be to let him sleep longer in the afternoon, maybe 2 hrs, 2hrs, 2hrs, and an early bed time and see if that helps the fussiness. Maybe your guy just likes more sleep than some kids!
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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2007, 17:56:34 pm »
hi there

I agree with Holly- try rearranging his routine a bit- 3 long naps, no catnap and see if it helps. if he likes his wake up time around 8am, lucky you ;) but it means 8pm is probably the earliest when you can expect him to go down for the night, more like 8:30 to me.
I do't know about reflux etc but I think it may be another reason, apart from OT, that your LO may be more fussy in the evening.

let us know how your day goes.

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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2007, 18:24:17 pm »
Hi Guys,
Well yesterday went great, he had 3 long naps and 1 cat nap, went to bed 7.35 with a 7 am wake up, woke at 8.20 and I managed to get him back to sleep.
Today however was not so good, 7 am wake up again, 45 min nap, tried to extend for 15 min- max time I get with dd around me, then a 2 hour 20 min nap, then a 45 min again tried to extend and a 2 hour which ended at 6.20 pm for a 7.30 bed time. I got him to bed at 7.35 he went to sleep straight away and this time I was waiting, 45 mins and wide awake and I spent 45 mins trying to resettle him. He is now having his 10 pm bottle which of course he doesnt want and is trying to sleep through it. So not sure how to fix things. Would happily do 3 long naps but 45 mins is ruining it. Is this a sign of not enough wake time or too much? Sorry got to go , dh struggling with feed
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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2007, 05:11:47 am »
Well last night was not good. We have gone from a 4 am and 8 am wake up backwards over the last 3 days and last night was a 2.30 and 6.20 am wake up. At 6.20 ds was yawning and only had a small bottle. He was ready to go back to bed when dd was getting up  :(



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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2007, 14:25:20 pm »
Don't forget that with any new thing you need to give it at least 3-5 days for things to settle in.  Her little system may just be adjusting to the change.  Stick with what every you decided to do and then after a few days if it's not working (I always give things a good week) then try something else.  Try not to get too discouraged.  All changed take some time.
You are doing a great job.

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Re: Really need help with pm/ early night
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2007, 17:18:18 pm »
Thanks ladies. Am going to persevere with the evenings and hope that soon he settles, I know he can do it it's just a matter of time. I hope