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Offline newmom7

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How to fix early wakes when OT?
« on: November 27, 2007, 10:20:13 am »
Hi I posted earlier about this whole dilemma, but no replies...so there is one main ? I need answered I think. Real quick....I think our 14.5 month old son is starting the 2-1 nap switch, refusing naps all over the place, early waking, etc.  My main question is how can I ever combat ot or get him on a somewhat normal schedule when he wakes up SO EARLY? (always been an early riser but even earlier now) Lately when I put him to bed early around 5:30 or 6p.m. if he has only had one 90 minute nap all day and has been up since 4:30 or 5 a.m.....it never fixes things likes it used to...he still gets up early and doesn't catch up on sleep so to speak which would allow me to move his bedtime back to normal. For example, like last night, he goes to bed at 5:45 p.m. then gets up at 4:30a.m...that is almost 11 hours of sleep. I put him back down this a.m. after a diaper change, but now it is 5:26a.m. and he is still talking to himself on and off. He is not tired. I am don't know. He was always an early waker...usually up around 5:30a then to bed by 7p or so, that is when he took 2 naps of about 1 and 1/2 hours. I have read other posts here about the switch and it seems that alot of babies try to switch to 1 nap before they can handle the A times. That seems to be what happened here...but my child is cleary grumpy all day and is really clumsy b/c he's so tired. (He's a spirited and very active baby) Any kind of ideas  are appreciated. I really am more frustrated than I have ever been. He does NW sometimes, but usually around 3:30 am. and so far I got him back to sleep at that time but maybe only til 4:30a.m.

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Re: How to fix early wakes when OT?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 12:34:31 pm »
Hi there, I'm not sure I can offer you much help, but I wanted to pop in and show support b/c my Kyler is 16.5 months and going through similar issues.  He started the transition about 13 months and long before he could handle the awake times.  Even now it's difficult.  We've only been on 1 straight nap for about 2 weeks, and sometimes it's 1/2 hr wakeup crying sometimes 1.5 hrs and still grumpy all day long.  Kyler has most always woken before 6:30, it was 6 am since the time change, but in the last few days is now 5-5:30, which like you, is waaayyy too early for one nap.  Bedtime is usually 6 but the one time I put him down at 5:30 he woke ealier than 6 at 5:30 for the first time, and since then has been earlier than 6.  I too don't know what to do.  I don't want him waking till 6:30 or later but he too wakes just talking, not crying, which for him means he's not tired.  But in your case 4:30 is way too early, definitely not time to get up.  What time is his nap?  Kyler's nap is 10:30 right now, but is tired by 9, it's hard to keep him up till then.  And usually cries when I lay him down.  It's hard to say what to do if he's not crying at 4:30; b/c they say not to go to them if they're not crying.  Even if he's up at 4:30 he won't take 2 naps?  When my Kyler was that age 2 months ago, he would wake at 5, I would try to get him back to sleep till 6 (never worked just cried) then would be back down at 8-8:30.  As long as he's not crying and you don't get him up he gets the idea that it's not time to get up.  My only suggestion would be what they told me:  see if he'll take a 20-30 min am nap, then try 3-3.5 hrs later for pm nap.  My case wasn't that bad, only waking at 5-5:30, so that never worked for me, but that's the only solution I see in your case, b/c he's got to be soooo ot.  Can you post your routine?

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Re: How to fix early wakes when OT?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2007, 14:57:21 pm »
Its tough to get them to the 1 nap when they wake so early.
I'd possibly try two naps but limit your AM nap to 20mins.basically you try and move the pm nap earlier and therfore eliminate the am nap.
if possible can we look at his routine so we've got more of an idea of times.

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Re: How to fix early wakes when OT?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 09:42:13 am »
My dd is going through this too - it is so hard!  It seems like limiting one nap to get a good solid second nap works for a lot of people.  It hasn't worked for us.  My dd is also an early riser and was refusing her pm nap.  I found that if I put her down for her am nap when she shows first signs of tiredness or after no more than 4 hours.  I then do the pm nap around 4 - 4 1/2 hours later.  This does mean that her A time before bed is sometimes pretty short, but that seems to really work for her.  Her naps add up to almost 3 hours which means the night time sleep isn't as long (only around 10 1/2 - 11).  This seems to work really well for her (at least right now!).  I know it isn't totally ideal, but I have a happy toddler! 

I think I'd try to limit the am nap first, but if that doesn't work you might want to try what we are doing.  It took a while to figure out the times, but it became obvious really quickly that 3 1/2 hours is too short but 5 is way too long!  Once I moved her A times to more like 4 hours she started taking the second nap again!!!!