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Difficulty going down for naps and short naps
« on: August 12, 2008, 09:21:39 am »
Hi all

We've been struggling with short naps for weeks now - for a couple of weeks I had great success holding LO down through the jolts and extending the naps that way, however a few weeks ago it stopped working and was totally hit and miss, so I barely do it now. It was an incredibly long and tense process so when it didnt work, was massively disappointing. anyway, what i mostly do now is just accept that he has short naps at the moment, and try and ensure he has plenty a day and doesnt get overtired. Since on the whole he sleeps through the night (is 15 weeks now, and has done on and off since 8 weeks), I think we must be doing ok.

However, this gets me to the latest issue (sorry girls, there's always something!) i often need to put him down for 5 or 6 naps a day if i cant extend any or he doesnt go through any on his own-  sometimes he goes to 45 mins which sets him up a lot better, and once in a blue moon, over 1hr 30. I watch his A times so carefully to try and ensure he's not up too long. Int he last few days, he has started screaming blue murder before every nap. I do a good wind down that i thought was working ok (although he's a very alert baby), and for many weeks just holding his hands and shushing him quietly has worked to settle him. on good days, i was able to just walk out of the room. I dont know if i now need to start PUPD, which to be honest, I dont want to do if i dont have to. As an example, this morning, to avoid starting the day OT I started wind down after 1hr A time, he then screamed for 15 mins and fell asleep eventually on his own. He's often needed a little gentle cry down but this is totally different, he sounds so so angry. He only had 30 mins so i put him down again 45 mins later when he started yawning (this is rare, he often shows absolutely no signs so i have to rely on the clcok and guesswork - the days when he yawns are so easy!) and we had another 20 min screaming fit until he eventually settles. He is also transititioning to a 4hour easy (on about 3.5 at the mo) which i'm sure loads of you know is v difficult with a short napper.

I dont know if there was anytinhg you can help me with but i wondered if reading my post, something might jump out to you. I honestly dont feel we can really shorten his A times any more, although yesterday after first 2 naps were 30 mins i worked v hard to reduce times and next nap was 45, and last one 1hr 40 (WOooooohooooooooo!). At this rate, we spend all day in his bedroom and to top it all he seems to have totally lost the ability for going to sleep independently - is this a phase? will he ever get it back>

Wow sorry I have really waffled now, thanks in advance for any pointers or even moral support. I have been screamed at today far more than is acceptable before 10am!

ELLIE




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Re: Difficulty going down for naps and short naps
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2008, 14:43:11 pm »
hugs  :-*  sorry you're having a rough time.

at almost 4 mo and if he's sleeping through the night i would aim for 1 hour 30 to 1 hour 45 min A time first thing, working up to 2 hours A time in the next few weeks.  maybe he is UT for that first nap?  after the short naps though you are approaching it the right way by reducing his A time, though i think 45 min may be a bit short (totally follow the yawns though if you get them), usually reducing by 30 min is sufficient.

some babies do go through a phase of short naps around this age, so don't get too discouraged, if he took long naps before he'll get back to them.

if he used to go to sleep independently then i'm sure he will get back to that.  once they learn something it's easier to get them back on track.  just try not to AP too much.  do the shh pat and pu/pd (always as a last resort) and don't hold or rock to sleep and you'll be fine. 

i think your example of this morning when he cried after the winddown when he had been up just an hour, he probably was crying because he wasn't ready for bed yet.  with such good nights i think at least you can count on the first A time being longer and maybe concentrate on that one and trying to get a long nap for your first one and go from there.
   

   


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Re: Difficulty going down for naps and short naps
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2008, 19:24:58 pm »
Hi Brenda

Thanks so much for your reply. I'm a bit thrown because I keep being told that 30 min naps mean OT, which was why I was so keen to get him down early in the morning, to try and avoid starting the day with a short nap. But i do think you're right, he seemed so angry when i put him down this am that i did wonder if he just wasnt ready to go - poor thing being forced to sleep by his evil mum!

I think I'll try a longer A time tomorrow first thing - i guess if he only has 30 mins either way it cant do any harm at all, as long as I keep an eye on later A times as usual to reduce if needs be. It's so difficult without any helpful cues most days, although funnily this afternoon, he was yawning like mad but couldnt get him to bed straight away as we had visitors. Was really worried as i thought he'd be a nightmare to go down but only took 5 mins to settle so he was obviously ready for it. Still, was only a 30 min nap as usual....

Am tempted to just accept that 30 mins is all he naturally does and to stop obsessing about it, but on the days where i can extend his naps it works so much better for both of us that i cant give up hope! It also saves going up and down the stairs all day ;)

Anyway I'll give it a go tomorrow and see what happens, he certainly isnt shouting for food at the mo so hopefully that wont throw a spanner in the works too much. If he only has 30 min naps again I guess we havent lost anything, it's just that he (and I) are so much happier with 45+ mins.

Wish me luck

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Re: Difficulty going down for naps and short naps
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2008, 12:34:50 pm »
30 min naps usually do mean OT, but i just don't think he could be ready for sleep after such a short A time first thing in the morning.  the plan you outlined makes sense, try it for 3 days and see if there's any improvement.  but if you see yawns head for the bedroom straight away...

the only other thing i would think it would be is dependency on props...does he have any?