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13 month old still not STTN
« on: October 04, 2008, 02:05:35 am »
We were makig some head way with PU/PD but as of late it seems to only aggitate the situation so we regressed to rocking and bringing him to bed with us.  I know BAD BAD BAD.  I think we are ready to try again as we are all not getting good sleep and it is affecting our day time play.  SO where do we begin?  Is he too old for PU/PD?  I'm at a real loss as to what to do to help him sleep independently.
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Re: 13 month old still not STTN
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2008, 02:25:35 am »
For my son PU/PD wouldn't work at this point.  We had attempted it because he would calm down so well when we picked him up, but then it would end up stimulating him even worse.  We had to go to WI/WO or just PD.  Sometimes we would do a combination of WI/PD/WO. 

What does your LO's day look like?  Are you going through the 2-1 nap transition?  This could also be associated with the NW's.  Is he teething?  A lot of these factors could be contributing to the NW's. 

 
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Re: 13 month old still not STTN
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2008, 12:28:57 pm »
He is on one nap now.  The 2-1 transition was easy for him.  I don't think he is teething although I could be surprised.  His teeth sneak in.  What is WI/WO? 
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Re: 13 month old still not STTN
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2008, 12:56:18 pm »
WI/WO stands for walk in/walk out.  When DS wakes in the middle of the night, you walk in, calm him with soothing words, maybe putting your hand on his back, or giving his lovey back to him and once he is calm you walk out.  You DO NOT pick him up as this seems to stimulate him more than soothe him. You then stand at his door and can do one of two things depending on your child. 

1) count to 10 and walk back in and repeat the step
2) set an amount of time that you will stand there before walkign back in. 

With my LO counting to 10 was not enough time for him to try to put himself back to sleep.  We would start with 1 minute and every time we would walk back out we would add a minute onto the time.  Obviously if the cry was more than a mantra cry then we would go in earlier.  Are you familiar with the difference in a mantra cry and a real cry?  I know that there are some great links on here pointing out the difference or it is in the BW book as well.  The key is that the LO puts themself to sleep.  Thus teaching them how to do it. 

Sometimes this process can take a while.  I've heard of some that take up to an hour and a half.  With our LO it took 30 minutes at the most.  If you choose this one, you have to be commited through the night.  You can't send mixed signals to your LO or you will confuse them.  I would suggest you and your DH to take turns doing this (1 night is his, 1 night is yours). 
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Re: 13 month old still not STTN
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 00:29:46 am »
What if he stands up in his crib?  Do I start the night this way?  Just put him in the crib and walk out, then walk in after a minute?  What if he won't calm down with just words and patting his back?  Is this method in one of the BW books?  Sorry for all the questions.  Thanx for the help.   
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Re: 13 month old still not STTN
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Re: 13 month old still not STTN
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 17:35:16 pm »
Hi-
I went through this when nick was 12 mos. he got used to me rocking him for 2 mins after NW and then would go right back down. But, he started waking 4-6 times wanting to be rocked...
It took 2 nights, I'd go in, hug him w/out picking him up, and give him lovey, walk out, wait 2 mins for him to settle, go back in... if he was crying hysterically, I'd stay with him, hugging him over the edge of crib, whilst reassuring him verbally. HE WAS MAD the first night. Keep saying "up" and pointing to the chair, cried for 1 hour the first night. Second night, he got it.
Now he sleeps through- first time in months....
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Re: 13 month old still not STTN
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2008, 22:40:10 pm »
Standing up in the crib was a regular occurance at our house when we were doing WI/WO.  It became such a regular thing that when we walked in we either had to point to the mattress or say "lay down" and he would.  Now, he just sits up and waits. 

When we did it to begin the night (teaching how to go to sleep on his own), we would lay him in the crib and walk out (not run though).  We would begin the timer at that point to know how long to wait.  Then we would begin the cycle.  If he won't calm down with just words and patting of the back, we would stay in there until he calmed down (but then again, not for say 15 mins!), only if he was hysterical would we pick him up at that point.  But then immediately would return him to the crib when he had calmed down. 

I believe that WI/WO is in the BW book (I'm not sure about the TW)  We could never find a drawn out discription of it, so hopefully the link that was posted will be of help.  We could never do GW as DS would just want to play with us if we were in the room for that long!  As speechie said....he'll probably be really PO'ed for the first night, but it gets better. 

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