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Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« on: May 01, 2009, 15:20:26 pm »
Hello,
this Paola from Italy. I would like to ask advice for our baby's night wakings.
She is 22 months and she goes to bed at 9/9.30 pm. She generally falls asleep quite quickly (with me and her dad holding her hands). Then, she regularly wakes up crying for me after 45' or so. This happens almost every night. She does not comfort with her dad; she stops crying only with me going to her; so I put her down and hold her hands till she falls asleep again, which generally happens after a while. Sometimes I happen to stay by her even for a couple of hours without her getting back to sleep.
Can anyone tell me what is it about?

Thank you

Paola
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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2009, 22:54:14 pm »
may be OT.  What's child's routine?  Can you present it in this format, please:

Awake 7 am
eat 7:30

lunch 11:30

S 12-2

5 pm dinner

8:30 wind down

9 pm asleep

9:45 awake crying
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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2009, 00:31:07 am »
I'm wondering if you always holding her hand is a prop?  Does she know how to get to sleep without you?  Maybe she is realizing that she holds your hand to fall asleep, but when she wakes up you're gone and wants you back to hold her hand.
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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2009, 06:30:32 am »
Sorry, I was away for the whole day yesterday.
Our baby routine is roughly the following:

Awake 7.30/8.30
Breakfast

Lunch 12.30/1.00 pm
Nap 2.00 pm - 3.30/4.00 pm

Dinner 8 pm
Sleep 9/9.30

I don't think she knows how to fall asleep without me holding her hands.
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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2009, 07:04:52 am »
It may be too little sleep and therefore OT. My DS is 3.5 and needs more sleep than that. The A-times are too long for a child that age...

Let's say the day starts at 8, you would want her down for her nap at 1 pm, 5 hours is about right.

8 am awake
8.30 breakfast



12.30 am lunch

1 pm winddown and nap
1-3 pm nap

8 pm bedtime,



I would say 5-5.5 hours is the A-time, that should eliminate the waking after 45 minutes at night. If the nap is shorter or earlier, so should bedtime be, etc.

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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2009, 11:06:07 am »
I agree with Steffi.  You've got 2 things here to deal with.  Your lo is likely OT.  You usually want to aim for about 12h of day and 12h of night.  Right now you've got 13-14h of day.  The other thing is that when she wakes at night she doesn't know how to put herself back to sleep without holding your hand.

IMO you should work on getting the routine working and then you can work on helping her to sleep independently.
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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2009, 16:34:50 pm »
Thanks for your replies. The thing is that up to a few months ago she would go to sleep earlier, that is 8 pm; but she would wake up anyway after an hour or so. However I will try to adjust her routine according to your suggestions.
And what about helping her to sleep independently? How do we manage this?


P.S. What is winddown?


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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2009, 17:01:48 pm »
Maybe a few months ago she actually still needed two naps and that was the reason why she woke after 45min. It's usually a sign for overtiredness, that's why I suggested cutting the A-times and lengthening the night.

I would stay with her to fall asleep, just put a chair next to her bed and sit there until she is asleep. When she sleeps longer and isn't OT, she can learn to fall asleep without you, but one thing after the other  ;)

Winddown at that age would include the explanation that it's bedtime soon. Then the bedtime routine, eg: dinner, bath, book, bed. maybe even a bottle still, I don't know. It has to be darkish, quiet and calming.
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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2009, 17:12:15 pm »
I actually suspected she was maybe overtired. Actually I noticed that quite often at 11.30/12.00 she looks sleepy, that is she wants her dummy, and wants her hands to be hold, and so on; she would probably take a nap at that point, though she should be having lunch in half an hour or so...therefore I usually keep her up, and follow the normal routine. But this is not the right thing to do, isn't it?

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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2009, 17:24:51 pm »
Then I'd give her lunch at 11.30 am, my DS has had his at this time for YEARS now. Day care also serves at 11.30 am. If she gets up at 8.00, maybe 12pm for lunch is the best and 12.30 or 1 for the nap. It's important to watch for their cues and their times and then doing the routine.
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Re: Night waking after 45'/1 hour
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2009, 17:32:43 pm »
Steffi,
I'll try and do so.
Thanks for your advice and support.

Have a nice evening!

Paola
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