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I have posted about a month ago regarding this topic and the saga continues.  Our daughter has slept well through the night since she was 9-10 months, so this is not a problem once she is asleep.  The problem is getting her down with out a fight.  She cries the minute she is put in her crib, tries to stall before bedtime pointing to stuffed animals on her shelf etc.  If she is crying and I leave the room she will escalate and try to make herself vomit which drives me nuts because that is the last thing I want to make her do.  So of course I head right back in, kneel down beside her crib, rub her back and calm her down.  I leave and again the crying starts and coughing to try and vomit.  On nights where she continues to do this without tiring of it, I end up holding her on the glider in her nursery until she calms right down and becomes sleepy again.  Half asleep I put her in her crib and she wakes and starts crying but by this point she is exhausted and calms down to sleep. It's so frustrating as I have never had to deal with her so anxious before bedtime. My husband usually leaves it to me to put her to sleep and she is even worse with him leaving the room as she doesn't see him as often as me during the day.  I understand it may have to do with her age, teeth, shots etc...but when it continues week after week I would like to take control of it.  There are the nights, perhaps every other night, where she cries when I leave the room and then calms down after a few minutes.  I just don't want her to have to go through this all the time.

Perhaps there is something in her routine that may need adjusting??  Please send your opinions/advice as it would be greatly appreciated!

Thank You Kindly

Her routine is as follows:

8am wake up, 5oz bottle in crib
9am breakfast
10:30am snack
12pm lunch
12:45pm 5oz bottle (usually takes it on her own in her crib and then I remove it when she is done and ready for nap)
1pm-3:30pm nap
4pm snack (if she's hungry)
6pm dinner
7:45pm bath
8pm  storytime
8:15pm 8oz bottle on glider
8:30pmm attempt bedtime in crib

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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2009, 16:01:39 pm »
Aw honey, this sounds like a tough bedtime situation! Let's see if we can tease out some of the issues.  First some questions:

1) How long have you had the protesting/anxiety before bed?

2) What is DD's personality (touchy/spirited/textbook/angel)?

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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009, 16:20:53 pm »
WI/WO worked for us eventually, but my DS still goes through phases with fighting it, but now it's not so much screaming just delaying which isn't as bad.  However, my DS wasn't going to the extent of trying to vomit.  That must be really hard to handle.
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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2009, 16:25:57 pm »
Hi There

Thank you for you immediate response!  It is very frustrating but I do believe I can resolve this with the right care.
She has been doing this for about 2 months now. :( 
Her personality is a spirited textbook if that's possible?! :)

Please send any suggestions you may have. 
Again, thank you
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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2009, 16:27:28 pm »
Regarding WI/WO...is the idea to continue the process until they settle?
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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2009, 16:38:15 pm »
Yes, that's the idea.  For us it took 30 - 45 minutes to begin, then slowly got better once he realized that I wasn't going to pick him up.  However, my DS is more textbook, so not sure how this would work with spirited mixed in there.

I would just go in and tell him it was night night time and lay him down and walk out again.  Eventually as soon as I walked in the door he would lay himself down.

Now he doesn't scream much, but since he's talking better it's the constant delays, but I find that a little easier to deal with personally.
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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2009, 16:44:23 pm »
Thank you
Our daughter has always been a textbook/angel, I consider her spirited within these past few months of bedtime anxieties. Otherwise, I think she would figure it out quite quickly what's going on.  I will try this and hopefully it won't last too long.

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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 22:34:34 pm »
I kind of wonder if the pointing at the stuffed animals on the shelf is NOT a stalling tactic but a fear? At this age they start developing fears of things that were fine before -- and the animals might be scary in the dark.  My son def. went thru a phase where the stuff on his dresser (a piggy bank & a radio) scared the bejeezus out of him, and I'd hear him shouting RADIO RADIO! in the middle of the night.  :P ::)  It also turned out that what was REALLY scaring him was the light from the baby monitor (which is behind the radio, and he thought it was coming from the radio) Finally what worked for us was turning on a light in the hallway.  That gives enough light in his room without making the scary shadows that a nightlight does.  We also had to turn the monitor face down so he couldn't see the light.  No more issues! 

since she's 18 months old it's hard for her to verbalize her fears (my son was close to 2.5 when we figured all this stuff out).  I might try moving those stuffed animals and see if that helps any, or if she still points at them.  Maybe also try a night light.  I think rather than seeing this as 'spirited' (since it doesn't sound like she shows other spirited tendencies) I'd see this as a genuine fear on her part -- not stalling, but fear.  Totally natural at this age! Put on your mommy-investigator hat and see what you can find out!

In the meantime I think WI/WO is a find alternative.  I might also increase the length of wind down so that we're sure she's relaxed.  If you can think of things that help her relax more -- like massage or music -- I might add those to the wind down as well.  The more relaxed you can make her, the better!  WI/WO you HAVE to be consistent though.  The first night might take 2 hours! but you should see improvement each day.  And improvement often comes really quickly! But I think first step is to make sure there is nothing making her fearful -- that may mean better light in the room, fewer animals to look scary in the dark, etc.  You might even talk to her during the day and as if there's anything that's making her scared in her room.  Don't want to put thoughts in her head, so you might say it like "Mommy wants to know why you cry at bedtime.  Is something bothering you?" I know she can't talk well yet, so she may just point at something.  If she points at it, I'd get rid of it -- at least for the time being to see if it's the offender.


My son went from NEEDING a pitch black room -- I mean, not even the whisper of light! -- to sleeping with the hall light on! Developing fears is just part of the toddler journey.  So see what you find out!
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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009, 23:12:52 pm »
I appreciate you response and will definitely try it out tonight and for the next week or so to see if improvement happens.  Little ones at this age are so sensitive and really all they need is their concern answered and the problem is solved until the next one arises!
Thank you all again
I'll keep you posted

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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2009, 05:28:47 am »
Hi There

Just following up with some of your suggestions regarding my daughter's "fear" of bedtime and I am grateful to say the last few nights have been much much better.  A little bit extra TLC before I send her off to sleep in her crib seems to help out much more.  Talking her through the steps, letting her know I'm going to bed as well and will see her in the morning etc.  Also, putting her down when she is truly tired also seems to help, otherwise she cries because she is still too awake and aware of her surroundings.  The stuffed animals on the shelf don't appear to be the problem as she seems to want to cuddle with each one and bring them all to bed.  I do believe it is the "fear" of being left alone that was giving her this anxiety.  I hope it continues to go well.

Sometimes it just takes a moment to step back and get a second opinion as our minds can easily become fogged in the daily routine we continue to follow. 

Always grateful for this website,
Thank you
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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2009, 15:22:37 pm »
Excellent! Maybe hugging each stuffed animal becomes part of the wind down! My son also at some point decided he had to say goodnight/hug/kiss every little stuffed animal and doodad on his dresser at around age 2.  It's now to the point where if there's a straw on his dresser we have to kiss and hug it good night!  ;D  Telling her YOU'RE going night-night too is brilliant.  So glad it's going better!  I think what happens at this age is they go from being babies to little people who have thoughts, you know? And so we just need to talk them thru things more.
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Re: At wits end with 18 month daughter crying when its bedtime!!
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2009, 15:26:19 pm »
So very true.  They are little people with a mind of their own now.  A little explanation goes a long way with these little ones!
Kissing every animal good night is another good idea she will love.  I thought of it but realized "how many" animals are on her shelf...ha ha :O))

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