Ride through it or beg for a second nap?

[Mashi]

This is also what I am thinking Liz. Although I was going to suggest pushing to 1130 at first, for a few days, and see how it goes, and then keep pushing towards 12. 1030 is really early for his nap if he is on one nap, and if you let him keep it that way, he's going to be content with his 530 - 630 day.  If you force his nap later, it could "reset" him that way

[*Liz*]

Thanks for checking in guys.

Not going too badly really.

Saturday (after 6.30pm bedtime)
Awake 6.10am
Nap 11.20 - 12.40 (pfffff!!)
Bedtime 18.40pm

Sunday
Awake 6.15am (I first heard him at 5.20am but pretty sure he nodded back off again)
Nap 10.45 - 12.50pm
Bedtime 18.40pm

So he seems to be trying to tag an extra 30-60 mins onto his night sleep which is super, and I am still running in at 13 - 13.5 hrs sleep a day which means we are not getting OT.

I think the nap was shorter on saturday as he was too late going down for it, especially after the short napping the day before. I'm going to try 10.45 - 11ish for a few days first and then aim to get the nap back until 11.30am. TBH I think I can stick there if he is extending his night as well, as I can live with a 6.30 - 7 day. Actually that would be perfect  but history has taught me not to get comfortable with nights over 11hrs.

But I think it is slow progress. I am wary about allowing him to set his body clock to what he is doing at the moment, but think he just needs a few more days to settle into his one nap.

He seems to be managing the long A before bed better already - much calmer - and no tears at bathtime today.

Another reason to not be too aggressive this week is that we have to go away on friday which will cause a bit of OT and upset anyway (stupid family wedding - my uncle - his 3rd no less - and NOT planned with childrens bedtimes in mind AT ALL) So I'm hoping I can reset the routine in the recovery from that anyway.

[Mashi]

Hey Liz, just a thought, and not sure how into this idea you would be....BUT!

DS  often wakes from naps at 1hr20min, and I have NO problem at all picking him up and rocking him.  A cuddle for a second is sometimes all it takes, he arches to get out and back in his cot and that is enough to resettle him back to sleep.  Any chance you could use some AP to get J back to sleep, or is he immune to it? I have days where it doesn't work, but very often it does. Even if you get two or three days where it does work, it might be enough to get him used to the long nap and sleep better when he's used to it? Just a thought.

BUT aside from that, it looks like you've had some luck in pushing that EW a bit later, so you may be on track already!  xx

[*Liz*]

I used to be able to do this - but these days he is immune to it. Joy of dealing with a toddler I guess  . Sometimes he will just self settle but he needs to be properly OT for that rather than just a bit tired.

That 1h 20 wake-up might have been teeth as well TBH. I think I just need to get some guts and push that first A a bit harder before the EWs start coming back thick and hard. I do this ALL the time - wait a bit and just make it worse!!

[~inbalance~]

Liz, I think I need to be doing exactly what you are at the moment as we are in the same boat.  T is waking around 6 every morning, and usually takes 1hr 20min nap (on good days), then refuses the pm nap so have in in bed by 6:30.  Same as you, it is still 13-13.5hrs sleep which is really all he needs, just have to make sure he gets used to it!  But oh, I am going to miss that second naptime!!