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The Battle of the Evening Feeding
« on: December 28, 2009, 04:40:13 am »
Hi all... I'm a dad looking for some help.  Hope that I find it.

My 5 month old daughter has been on the 4-hour EASY for the past month-and-a-half or so.  Her schedule is currently:
  • 7-9am breast feed, then awake; 9-11am sleep
  • 11-1pm breast feed, then awake; 1-3pm sleep
  • 3-515pm breast feed, then awake; 515-6pm sleep
  • 6-7pm bottle feed battle; 7-730 bath; 730-10pm sleep
  • 10pm dream feed
...and that's the schedule she's been on for a while now.  She wakes us up about once a night but that's about it.

So, here's my problem... that 6-7pm feeding is a battle.  She used to be able to take about 2-2.5 ounces fairly well, take a burp break, and then she'd finish anywhere from another half ounce to an ounce before being done.  In the last two to three weeks, however, the situation has gone to the point where she won't even drink a half ounce anymore - and that's with some serious battle to do so.  And I know she's hungry because she does that baby lip smacking when I wake her up from the cat nap.

We've tried so many different methods to get her to feed:
  • Location: baby seat in kitchen, new position with seat in kitchen, laying on floor mat, laying on changing table, cradled in mom's arms, laying in dad's lap
  • Bottles: playtex slow nipple, playtex medium nipple, medela medium nipple
  • Ambience: dead quiet, daddy humming, daddy talking, daddy singing, mommy making faces, daddy making faces, daddy rubbing baby's hands, different levels of light in the room, etc, etc, etc.

Additionally, after she refuses the bottle, she refuses the breast too - which happened this evening after trying the bottle for a half hour.  The ONLY way that we were able to get her to do this evening's feeding off of the bottle was to find something ridiculously loud to capture her attention.  Tonight, daddy was rattling this one toy so loud that I'm surprised neighbors didn't hear it.  Only then did she take down the bottle.

And one more thing to note... dream feeds with the bottle work just fine!  I can sneak into the room in the evenings and she takes the bottle down like nobody's business.  What the heck is going on?!?

I don't want to make that distraction method a habit, of course, and we don't know what else to do.  This is supposed to be daddy's time... bottle feed and bath time.  However, I'm beyond the frustrated point here.  I can't think of anything else to try.  Please help.

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Re: The Battle of the Evening Feeding
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2009, 16:47:21 pm »
Have you tried giving her the bottle after her bath to see if she takes it better? If she has a feed at 3 and you are doing the next feed at 6 (if I am reading your routine right) maybe she just isn't hungry enough after 3 hours. We do bath first then bottle, good burp so she is awake but drowsy going into her cot and she generally goes straight to sleep. The lip smacking thing isn't always a hungry sign - DD does it a lot now I think she just likes the sensation ::) - just when you think you have the signs sorted.........!

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Re: The Battle of the Evening Feeding
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2009, 17:06:52 pm »
Thanks, we'll give that a shot tonight... and be sure to post on how it went.

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Re: The Battle of the Evening Feeding
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2009, 19:20:41 pm »
Good luck! Let us know how it goes, if it doesn't work we can re-think!

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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2009, 17:21:22 pm »
Well, it didn't go well... at first.  She took about 3/4 of an ounce before refusing to feed any more.  BUT...

I know this will sounds a bit like a commercial, but I absolutely have nothing to do with either of these companies.  We were using various Playtex nipples with little luck, as mentioned before.  My wife, in simply a search for anything else to try, busted out this Dr. Browns bottle that we had in the pantry.  OMG what a difference.  Our daughter took another 2.5 ounces without a break.

Now, Dr. Browns boasts this airflow technology deal that reduces air bubbles.  I don't think that our success had anything to do with that.  When I compared the Dr. Browns nipple to the Medela and Playtex nipples, our baby was able to get her lips around the Dr. Browns nipple which I think got it to the right place in her mouth.  The other two nipples have a wide base.  I think that was causing her to smack her tongue when trying to suck, and causing her the frustration.

Dr Browns: http://www.handi-craft.com/products/nipples.htm (the "standard" nipples is what worked last night)
Playtex: http://www.playtexbaby.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?id=1008  (what we were using before, both slow and medium flow)
Medela: http://www.medelabreastfeedingus.com/products/breastmilk-collection/489/wide-base-nipple-3-pack-slow-flow (other ones we tried)

Tonight will be the 'real' test though.  Here's to hoping that this wasn't a fluke.  I'll be sure to reply again with the results either way.

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Re: The Battle of the Evening Feeding
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2009, 18:20:06 pm »
The bottle can make a huge difference! We have been using tommee tippee closer to nature bottles with DD and have recently switched to Avent. She has been taking her milk much better with the Avent variflow - it's faster than the TT fast flow (she is on a reflux formula) and its longer which I think suits her tounge tie and high palate better! We have used Dr Brown's with both kids - they are good bottles!

Good luck tonight - keep us posted!

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Re: The Battle of the Evening Feeding
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2010, 21:43:41 pm »
Looking like it isn't a fluke... although last night was screwed up with a New Year's Eve gathering, the night before still went very well.  We may have a winner here.    :)

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Re: The Battle of the Evening Feeding
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2010, 21:46:44 pm »
Woo hoo - quiet celebrations for you incase she hears and changes her mind! ;D

Laura