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8 wks old and don't know where to start
« on: March 29, 2010, 14:18:51 pm »
Hello everyone,
I am new to the forums and just read SOTBW. It makes a lot of sense to me, as we're not willing to CIO/CC or do hardcore AP/co-sleeping. BW methods seem sensible and moderate - I'm hoping they work, too! :D

I am not sure where exactly to start working with my baby. From what I can tell from the quiz, I think she's a textbook baby with tendencies toward being touchy. Here's where we're at right now:

--Breastfeeds about every 3 hours (sometimes shorter if she seems really hungry, sometimes longer if she's napping longer. Usually not more often than 2.5 or less often than 4 hrs (that's quite rare)) during the day. A couple weeks ago she was eating every two hours, but I realized she wasn't really hungry and I was actually just feeding her when she'd get fussy b/c she was tired. Since then we've pushed the feedings to being fairly consistently every 3 hours.

--Usually awake for an hour and a half between naps, if I can get her to take a nap.

--For the first five weeks or so of her life, she pretty much only napped being held by people. Partly because she was so sweet and snuggly, and partly because we were afraid to wake her once she was asleep. :) A couple weeks ago I started trying to put her down in her crib for naps, which she hated. It stressed us all out terribly, so I gave up after about 5 days and for the past week, she's been taking all her daytime naps in the swing. She'll nap for anywhere from 45 min-2 hrs+ in the swing with white noise going, generally.

--She nurses to sleep at night - usually she'll nurse around 8:30 or 9, fall asleep and I'll put her in her crib. I'll often DF or rouse her just enough to eat at 10:30 or 11 before I go to bed. Generally she'll sleep until 4 or 4:30 am, I'll feed her, and she'll sleep again til 7 or 7:30 am. She sometimes makes noises either in her sleep or like she's waking up between those feedings, but she'll generally settle back down on her own. We've only had to go in to settle her down a couple of times.

To begin with, I've been concentrating on getting her into the EASY routine - eating, having a little activity, then taking a nap. I already mentioned that we've gotten her to be mostly on a 3 hour routine. I'm working on trying to read her tired cues...it's so hard to tell. Sometimes I feel like she's only been awake for 40 mins and she's already giving cues - yawning, staring, etc. but then I try to get her to nap and she fights it for another 40 minutes. Other times I wait til I'm sure she's tired - yawning more, getting a little fussy - and she might cry a bit but falls asleep faster ... or she's overtired by then and won't nap at all.  ??? It's so hard.

I also know at some point I need to get her to nap in her crib and fall and stay asleep there without using the swing, and we'll eventually need to wean her from nursing to sleep at night (though she sleeps SO well at night that I am scared to mess with it!).

We do swaddle her for every nap and at bedtime. She will occasionally take a pacifier, but  very inconsistently. She does seem to have a strong sucking need, and will often suck on her tongue/our shoulders/her hands if she can figure out how to get them in her mouth. :)

So...where should I start? What am I doing right and what am I doing horribly wrong? :) What area should I tackle first?
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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 17:02:10 pm »

At 8 wks she is still on a baby, baby.IYKWIM. if it was me i would tackel the sleeping independantly 1st as thats the one that you will want to be sorted in a few months time when your sick of getting up in the night :P

by now you could start to put her down where you want her to nap, wether it be a crib or moses basket etc......what your aiming for is independant sleep, so not falling asleep feeding, you want to be able to put her down awake so eventually, she will self soothe to sleep..............

have you looked at the sampl EASY routines for what sort of a schedule you would be on/ and have a look at the pat/shush section too that will help you with the soothing to sleep..hope that helps :-*
Enjoy your baby girl :-*

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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 22:09:52 pm »
If it helps, here is our EASY from last night through right now:

6:30 pm - eat
7:30: bath, pjs, wind down
8:30 - eat, falls asleep nursing, put her in crib
10:30 - dream feed
4:15 am: eat, falls asleep nursing, put her in crib
6:15: wakes in crib, p/u  to comfort, falls asleep in a matter of moments of holding her, lay back down
745 - eat
8:10 - A
9:10 - nap in swing
1110: I woke her up to eat
11:50: A
12:30 - nap in swing
2:00: eat
225: A
3:30: nap in swing
420: woke up, held her and gave her paci
445: eat
520: A
6:00: sleep in swing (this is where we are right now)

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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 04:50:34 am »
hi there, well apart from that really long A time at the end of the day your routine looks great, the only thing is that sleeping in the swing, cant be done, gotta get her out of that and into her cot! :) otherwise before you know it she will be alot more aware of where she is going to sleep and will protest alot harder than she does now, when they get used to being put to sleep in a certain way they dont like it being changed, better to knock it on the head while she is still young enough. so as Emma said, put her to sleep in her cot and do all settling in the cot. if she cries you do pat/shh, the key is being consistant, if you arent then she wont learn.

how have you gone  the past couple of days? have you tried putting her to sleep in her cot?





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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 14:46:17 pm »
Hey there, thanks for your reply! The past several days were a bit rough because she came down with a cold and was quite congested and then got her 2 month vaccinations yesterday, so she has been a bit miserable the past few days. :( We ended up doing lots of nursing and some naps in the swing to keep her upright and help her breathe.

But she's feeling much better today, so your post inspired me to try to get her to nap in her crib. I did a wind-down routine, put her in her crib on her side and did pat/shush. She fussed for a couple minutes, then dropped to sleep. Kept patting for several minutes, through a couple jolts, during which I picked up the shushing again, then gradually tapered off and left her sleeping there. It's been about half an hour and she's still sleeping, so, fingers crossed! We'll see how it goes. :) Thanks for the encouragement!

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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 15:31:28 pm »
Well she woke up after about 40 mins. and couldn't get her back to sleep. :( But at least she slept in the crib for awhile.

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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2010, 20:47:31 pm »
well its a start at least :) did you try to extend the nap?





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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2010, 20:58:33 pm »
Yes, I tried but no luck. 2nd nap, same story. 3rd nap, extended a bit with pacifier, but she never settled into a deep sleep - would calm down then cry every couple minutes so I eventually used APOP and held her in the rocker for another 30 min til it was time to eat again.

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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2010, 21:00:24 pm »
ok, well keep it up, it may just take a couple of days for her to get used to the cot, also can you try HTTJ to help her through the transitions, it seems thats what she is struggling with





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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2010, 21:53:16 pm »
ok, well keep it up, it may just take a couple of days for her to get used to the cot, also can you try HTTJ to help her through the transitions, it seems thats what she is struggling with

Yes, I tired WTS for the 2nd nap, but it didn't seem to help, so next time I'll try HTTJ. I think I may also try to get her room darker...we have a blanket over the windows but it's still pretty light in there so I may be putting something lovely like tin foil over the windows. :D

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Re: 8 wks old and don't know where to start
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2010, 07:49:45 am »
hey whatever works!! lol let me know how you get on :)