40 mins and burping - anyone else got this problem?

[munzle]

DS is 13wo and we have really struggled with wind and sticking on EASY. As his A times have got longer and I've found lots of strategies to cope it's got a bit easier, but he still suffers from it quite badly. The main problem now is his short naps. He will go down independently in his cot, but 9 times out of 10 will wake after 40 mins. Itr try to sshh-pat him back to sleep, but when he squirms so much I usually pick him up and he does a big burp. I'm not sure whether it's the discomfort of the wind that't preventing him from going back to sleep (in which case it seems there's not a lot I can do) or whether I should try w2s or getting in there at 35 mins to httj. I know he can sleep with wind at night, but is it too much to expect for naps - should I pick him up and burp him? Once I've picked him up and burped him it's a real job getting him back off. Ssh-pat seems to make him really cross and I have to AP him to sleep. This is really tricky as I have a toddler and she's sooo fed up of me holding baby! Anyone else been through this?

[Alexa's mummy]

hi there, its tough as naps are generally inconsistent at this age, deveopmentally. but i really feel your pain with the wind issue, my DD is a shocker with it. one of our major probs getting her settled when she was much younger was by the time we'd winded her after a feed she was way OT cos it'd takeso long to come up. she's v sicky too (BF with bit of formula). sometimes even now, she'll wake 2h after bedtime and need re-winding then go back to sleep.

have u tried infacol/gripe water/colief? to any effect? i would persevere with those as i think they do help (infacol seemed to with alexa). and make sure ur LO is fully winded before going down. do you do proper EAS? therefore E not right before S? that should help a little?

it does get easier form about 4m in that they get better at getting their own wind up. for now i would say i reckon u really need to re-burp as u cant leave him in pain. its such a difficult age but i guess  have to do what u can esp as u have a toddler too, and as long as he's settling himself to sleep (??) that is the best start. also have u tried swaddling? it was essential for my DD to trnsition the sleep cycles at this age...

good luck xx

[munzle]

Hi - It is very tough - especially when he only sleeps for 20 mins and then my toddler clings on to my leg wailing 'no baby'! How old is you dd now? We use infacol and gripe water but colief seems to be a bit of a pain with bfing - do you think it's much different to infacol? If so, it might be worth a try I suppose. He does settle himself to sleep really well if I catch him at the right time, but after the first nap, it's hard to judge A times when his naps have been so rubbish. We do swaddle him and I try really hard to stick to EASY. I feed him as soon as he wakes, then burp him for his entire A time. I don't think there's an answer really. Looks like I'll just have to carry on doing what I'm doing and hope he grows out of it sooner rather than later. Thanks for your reply.

[Alexa's mummy]

my daughter is nearly 6mo and tho she is much better se's still quite windy/sicky. i thought infacol worked to ome extent, but tbh i found it difficult enough rmembering to use that so i reckon colief wld be quite tricky/hassley as you've got to give in a bttle so you'd have to express/give it in a small amt of formula before every feed? again... not going to make ilfe any easier when you're also busy with a toddler!

also i think most babies sickiness/wind improves at 4months ish. and once you're out of this age where OT causes major major screams (if your son is anything like my DD) then life gets so much easier!

i really dont know how mums with another one do this... i've found it difficult enough doing this EASY and sleep training, but it really works doesn't it!

i'd say keep going as best u can, and remember difficulties with naps often resolve once you're past this wonky age. does he sleep ok at night? a good sign he can transition well. and as long as you're getting him in the habit of taking naps in his cot, settling to sleep independently. sometimes i wish i hadnt got so worked up about her sleep when Alexa was this age. it goes so fast and i spent a lot of time getting stressed about it. but ot is so important to their happiness so i guess it is v imprtant!

we just have to do what we can dont we??!

: )

[munzle]

Yea - I think my daughter was heaps better by 4months, but OT caused us problems with her all the way through until about now! Only a couple of months ago we were still battling with OT, so if your dd doesn't seem to suffer too much you're lucky!

Have spent a couple of days going back to basics and observing him really closely. Have also tried a longer wind down and less stimulating activities (i.e. not letting grandparents endlessly coo at him!) and that seems to have helped. Have also been to the docs today and they've given me some infant gaviscon. I'm not entirely convinced that he's got reflux, but will see if it makes any difference.

He does sleep quite well at night - wakes once for a feed and occasionally wakes for a burp or dummy re-plug, so think he can transition fine. Also, this morning he slept for an hour before he woke needing to be burped, so looks like if he didn't suffer from wind he'd be a brilliant sleeper...  Agree with you about EASY - it was great with dd but even more important with ds so that his E is as far away from S as poss.

[Alexa's mummy]

i think thats a really good idea to do lots of observation etc. the g'parents OS them is always a difficult hey?! really hope the gaviscon gives u some results. its so tricky when theyre so windy. and the OT cries are often same as wind/pain cries (i found with ALexa) esp with the back arching etc, so i was always torn as to whether i should have been trying to wind her or calm her for sleep!

good that he sleeps well at night.. and i guess the issue is making sure he gets enough daytime sleep so he doesnt get OT and impact upon his nights! how do you adjust his following A times after a short nap? i think at this age (13/14 wks?) u can take off around 30mins (maybe more?) so reduce down to abt 1h15mins A. i found writing it all down helped to see patterns emerging from what had happened with the previous nap etc.

good luck xx