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Offline emily08

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23 month old NW every 1.5 hrs !!!!!!!
« on: August 09, 2010, 08:09:23 am »
Hi
My 23 month old daughter used to be a very good sleeper, 2 naps in the day and used to sleep through the night, that too, with me just leaving her in her cot awake at bedtime and walking out of the door.... then we went on a 6 week holiday where she slept in her own travel bed but in our room, and from there everything went wrong.
From the time we have got back I have had nothing but problems. She still has a good afternoon nap of about 2 hrs. but we have endless problems at bedtime and through the night. We have a good bedtime routine - bath,reading books, couple of songs, lights off...at this point she starts fussing and in the last couple of days has only agreed to lie down in her cot if I hold her hand through the railings (I sit on a chair near the cot). After about 15 minutes I can safely walk out but after 1.5 hours she starts crying, after waiting to see if she stops I go back in lie her down again, cover her and sit in the chair (no holding of hand) and she goes to sleep in minutes....This repeats itself every 1.5 hours till morning (sometimes she skips the crying at around 2am and goes for 3 hours).

What am I doing wrong how do I correct this - does anyone know what to do?

My routine is something like this:
8am Wake up, brush teeth, potty
9am go to playschool
11am back from school
12.30 Lunch
1.30 Nap
3.15-3.30 Wake up, snack, playtime
7.30 Bedtime Routine
8.15 Lights off

Many thanks in advance!


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Re: 23 month old NW every 1.5 hrs !!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2010, 10:23:40 am »
Hello, i'm so expert but i have found with my 22mo that the afternoon nap was the problem. if i woke him at 2pm he wouldn't sleep well at night. the solution i found was to start the nap time earlier (11am) and only let him sleep for 1h to maybe 1h30 if he woke up earlier than normal at start of day. i don't think i child that age needs 2h nap in the day. i've just started a new routine in which he has no day nap at all and as long as i keep him busy busy busy! he doesn't complain about it and sleep through the night from 7 till 7 only waking briefly around 1am.
i hope this is of help to you
good luck

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Re: 23 month old NW every 1.5 hrs !!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 13:14:56 pm »
i wonder if she has got a bit OT with the NW so needs her A time pulled back a bit.id do a 5hr A instead of the 5.5 and bring bedtime forward a bit.so id do something like:
8.00
1.00-3pm
8.00 asleep

Early evening NW are always due to OT for us but after midnight NW are usually discomfort.Is she teething? id try giving her some meds before bedtime and see if that helps.you could also do a DF med when you go to bed too.

i wouldnt shorten her nap.A lot of chd this age are still taking a 2hr nap,some need more.id try tweaking things a bit first and rule out pain b4 you do that.JMO xxxx


something else that just jumped out at me is hunger?in your routine you dont mention an evening meal??? is that a type error or does she not eat after her snack at 3pm?  if not id be inclined to think hunger could be an issue too xxx
« Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 13:17:56 pm by Lucysol »

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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 03:17:03 am »
Hi Lucysol,
The evening meal was a typo....she has a meal at 6.30 but nothing after that - I did wonder myself if it could be hunger, perhaps a glass of milk before brushing her teeth?
I dont know about teething - she certainly hasnt got red gums so I dont think there is anything coming through at the moment.....but you never know!

Last night it was slightly different. I didnt put the air conditioning unit on for her last night as I have a bad cold and was going to sleep in her room (my DH cant do without AC at night!!!) and she didnt wake up till 1.30am and then once more around 4am. You said that after midnight NW are normally due to discomfort so now I am wondering if she normally gets cold ... last night with no AC she felt a little warm, so perhaps I need to have the Ac on for her but at a slightly higher temperature than normal?

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2010, 09:28:41 am »
i was just saying thats what happens with my DD re the discomfort..it may be that for you but dont rule out the other stuff.
what is she doing when she wakes? crying,chatting?

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2010, 12:28:40 pm »
Hi Lucycol,
she wakes up crying/calling for me then once I go in there and lie her back down in the cot she stops crying and goes straight back to sleep, I dont have to do anything and within 5 min I can walk out

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2010, 12:40:40 pm »
 she sounds like she just wants some reassurance to know you are there,i guess its come from sleeping with you on the holiday..she now has had to go back to being on her own.have you tried just talking quietly from the door instead of going in?i  think having you there is becoming a prop..she needs you thereto go back to sleep.
 is she really crying or just mantra-ing? id be inclined to leave her be for a bit and see if she can settle back off herself...obv not if she is really screaming tho?

its like you are doing GW without withdrawing yourself iyswim? GW you gradually move further away from her every few nights till you are out the door,and you can then reassure her with your voice.if you dont think she would cope with your voice just from the door straightaway id think about doing the GW technique?

what do you think?

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2010, 15:30:45 pm »
Hi again
well I have just put her to sleep for the night...I gave a her milk before her sleep and I put the temperature in the bedroom a little higher. So lets see what happens tonight.
Actually I am trying to do GW - I have done it in the past successfully - what I was trying to do was let her fall asleep holding my hand for 3-4 nights, then without but me sitting close by for 3-4 night and then slowly slowly move my seat further and further away closer to the door.....unfortunately I am stuck on the holding hand for 4-5 days this time, but tomorrow I will try and make her sleep without holding my hand...I will let you know how it goes.
Thanks so much for all your help so far!

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2010, 18:13:56 pm »
i wouldnt worry about being stuck for a few days,it will take time but she will get there.

i hope you have a better night x

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Re: 23 month old NW every 1.5 hrs !!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2010, 11:40:00 am »
How are you getting on?  For us NWs every hour or so are usually discomfort here, but as Lucy says it's like she needs to reassurance from you.
LAURA xx




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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2010, 16:41:16 pm »
hi well last night was an improvement again as she didnt wake every 1.5 hours like previously, however she woke again at 12.30 then 2.30 and then at 3am at which point I just slept in her room on a camp bed as I have not been well (bad flu) so I just couldnt face any more wakings !!!!! But each time she woke up she was crying and desperately needed my hand to go to sleep. I allowed her to hold my hand as this morning she had to go to playschool and i didnt want her tired but vowed that I had to put an end to this tonight (she only has playschool on alternate days).
So tonight I put her in her cot, sat by her side and refused point blank to hold her hand, she was not happy about this and tried crying (more like mantra) so I just kept reassuring her but stuck my grounds.....she eventually fell asleep ..... so lets keep our fingers crossed for tonight. I will let you know...thanks so much for all your help

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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2010, 17:13:58 pm »
Thats gr8...i know it took a while but at least she did it without your hand.Try to stick with the no hand now you have managed it once.