7mo frequent NWs

[Buntybear]

Ah bless him - saves you a job doesn't it! lol

[jackman]

I think your idea of letting him play with toast or some sort of food while you are feeding him is good. I do that with my lo and in hopes that eventually he learns to feed himself. Your lo might surprise you and start eating more and more finger foods.

Give it a go and see what happens!!!

Hope you had a good night regardless of OT.

[jackman]

How are things?

[Rizzo]

Hi Jackman

He is definitely teething... Having said that though, the last 2 nights he woke at 12am ish (fed), then 5.15am(ish) - where i fed him in my bed, and he slept for another 1-1.5hrs.

Noticed you are getting EW's too - usually he doesnt feed and go back to sleep, but the last few times he has, but not sure whether its because i have put him in bed with me. Might be a bad habit to start... I dont BF him again when he wakes, but give him solids breakfast instead.

Day sleeps have been good, but possibly is getting a little more than usual - yesterday he had 2 x 2hr naps, with no CN. So far this morning, he is close to 2.5 hours. Does teething make them sleepier??

Is the 5am feed a bad habit to start? I would be happy if he eventually dropped the 12am feed, and just had the 5am one, then back to bed. But while he is teething, dont want to refuse a feed during the night, as gets very cranky...

Solids are still hit and miss. He feeds much better for my mother - maybe I am too much of a softy...

Just to add - he has a temp of 38.7 this morning, which prob explains him sleeping more..

[jackman]

Hi Rizzo
Teething does definitely make lo's more sleepy and A times will tend to be shorter too. 4hrs is on the higher side for day sleep, but he most likely needs it during this teething stage.

re 5am feed: I used to feed my DS at 5am and he would go right back to sleep, but since I dropped all nightfeedings, I really try and hold off until 7am. It is completely up to you what you would like to do and you know your lo best.

Have you tried giving your lo meds to help while he is teething? That might be something to fight the crankiness.

Hope things get better for you.

[Rizzo]

Yep, he is on panadol at the moment. i usually give it at BT each night.

will wait till he is a bit more himself and have a think about what to do with the 5am feed.

[jackman]

How are things Rizzo?

[Rizzo]

OMG - awful!!!

Sorry havent written earlier, i am exhausted.

he is waking multiple times during the night, and usually stays awake for 1-2 hours at some point during the night. tried to PU/PD, but that makes it even worse, tried patting, same thing.

he is usually getting 3-3.5hrs sleep during the day (in 2 naps), and has a 3hr A time before BT (maybe that is too long for him, although it doesnt take a huge amount of time for him to get to sleep). HOWEVER, he is now wanting to be rocked to sleep, ever since he has been sick and teething...

EASY is roughly:
E 4/5am, sleep with me till 7am ish (later if bad night)
7am ish solids b'fast
A 2hrs (cant stretch this as the nights are too bad at the moment).
S - 2hrs usually
E 11am ish (BF)
12pm - lunch
A 3 hours usually
S - 1hr, sometimes 1.5hrs (usually around 1.30-2pm) - ie wakes around 3pm
E - 3pm
5pm - dinner
6pm BT

E - 10-11pm (but has been waking between 7-9pm and NOT settling back to sleep for ages)

E - 2-3am (again, has not been settling to sleep)

Last night, i gave panadol each time he woke during the night, and he eventually slept within 30mins of that. otherwise, would have been awake for ages

What is going on???
Are these wakeups just teething? He just started to crawl during last week too, so not sure if that is it too?
Do we need to change A times, or A time before BT???

HELP!!!

[jackman]

Hugs Rizzo. I feel your pain as your lo is doing EXACTLY what mine is doing currently. It could be a number of things:
- teething (meds will help)
- developmental since he is learning to crawl. Just allow your lo to practice during his A times so he isn't trying at night.
-too long of an A time to BT: maybe try 2.5hrs and see if that makes a difference, altho your lo isn't waking within 1-2hrs of going to bed, so I don't think it is OT.

When your DS wakes in the middle of the night, is he wide awake and wanting to play? Does this happen on days you are getting 3.5hrs of DT sleep versus 3hrs? Just trying to see if you might need to cut down on DT sleep. Again, I'm trying to trouble shoot my issues too as they are VERY similar.

The other thing you need to try and I know you say it is hard, but push your first A time to 3hrs that might help with the NWs.

Tonight, try for an earlier BT to see if it makes a difference. If no, then work with the first A time. Increase it even by 10-15min.

Good luck and keep me posted.