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13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« on: December 15, 2010, 15:29:05 pm »
Hi, my 13 wo has recently started to feed quite poorly.  Up until now she has been an excellent feeder, nursing every three hours during the day and then going 5 hours at night for her first stretch then every 3 hours thereafter.  I have never been able to do a dreamfeed because she is way to sensitive and wakes right up.

Lately however, she seems so distracted that she isn't nursing well.  She is incredibly impatient waiting for my milk to come in, but once it does she will often nurse for a couple of minutes and then begin bobbing on and off, so much that she is beginning to rub the hair off the side of her head!  I have tried feeding her in her room away from all the action and it doesn't seem to make much difference.  She is still sleeping long enough during the day so it doesn't appear that she is getting hungry.  I doubt that I could start working towards a 4 hour EASY yet as she can only stay up about 1-1.25 hours during the day before she starts yawning.

Night time now however, is a different story.  She is now starting to wake up every two hours or so just squirming and wiggling around like crazy.  I have tried getting her back to sleep, but I am so worried that she is hungry that I usually try feeding her after about 2 1/2 hours.  She still bobs around a fair bit but she generally will eat, although nowhere near as well as she was a couple of weeks ago.  Her sleep is very fitful now at night...as is mine!

The only thing that I can think of is that some of this started after she drank from a bottle for a day while I was away.  I expected her to be a little impatient the first day or so back on the breast but I can't imagine that she would still be hanging on to that after two weeks!

Not sure if I should be concerned or not.  I remember DS doing a bit of that, but not as bad as this.  Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks!
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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 15:50:28 pm »
Hi, I have a very similar thing going on with my 13 week old.  For the last week or so she has become much fussier at feeds, bobbing on a off a lot, whereas previously she was an excellent feeder.  I am not sure if it is because she is suddenly a LOT more interested in her surrounding (even when I'm sitting in a 'boring' quiet place at home) or if she perhaps needs fewer feeds now..  Nights are OK though for the moment thankfully.
Will be interested to see what replies you get - it can be quite frustrating can't it?!
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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 15:51:08 pm »
It could be she needs a bit longer between feeds at this stage.  you could try 3.15 and see does that make a difference?

Your EASY may end up being EAS AEAS for a while if she needs shorter A times.  

My nights are like yours.  I get one long stretch and then up every 3 hours!  Glad to hear thats normal as i was beginning to think i was doing something wrong.  The added wakenings are probably because she's not taking as much milk during the day and hopefully with the longer times between feeds she'll settle to taking longer feeds again and the NWs will go back to what they were!  





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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 15:52:05 pm »
PS this seems to have coincided with her naps also getting a lot worse (not that they were ever great to start with!) - have you found that too?
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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 15:57:50 pm »
If you are finding naps are getting worse i think your LO is telling you she is ready for more A time.   Here are some links:

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63161.0

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=120362.0

Taking less at feeds and naps shortening are two signs they are ready to move to a 3.5/4 hour EASY although with bfing babes they often can't go more than 3.5 hours for a while yet! 





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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 22:04:46 pm »
Thanks.  Her naps are good right now and she struggles with longer A times.  So far today we have done a AEAS routine after both naps.  Her eating is still so so today, but I will certainly extend the time between feeds looking towards the 4 hour EASY.  We'll see how she responds over the next couple of nights and hopefully the NWs will return to normal.  I'll keep you posted.
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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 09:45:37 am »
Ah! We had our first extra feed last night at 1.30am.  Will def try her on the 3.5 hr EASY and see if that helps!

Thanks for the advice Shiv52 and sorry for muzzling on this thread (it just sounded almost exactly like the problem I'm having!). 

Hope things improve for you carlicost!
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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 11:10:10 am »
Welcome x

Hope the extending time between feeds does the trick!





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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 03:52:31 am »
Not much has changed here in the last day.  DD is still not nursing very well at all.  Last night she woke every three hours, which makes me believe it is a bit habitual, but of course I want to feed her just to make sure.  She nurses a little better at night, but she is half asleep and some of the time she is just suckling.

I'm getting a little worried about my supply now as she only seems to nurse on one side for about 5 minutes then quit.  I can't get her to go much longer so I switch her to the other side just so she eats a little more.  I'm worried that she obviously isn't getting any hindmilk although it doesn't seem to affect her during the day as she is going about 3.25 between feeds and certainly isn't starved or anything.  Before it was only taking her about 15 minutes or so to down a breast and a half.  Today I pumped an hour after I fed her and only got about an ounce (I do have trouble pumping sometimes though...) when I went to top her up after her next feed she only took half of it so I assume she is getting enough for now?

I guess we'll see what tomorrow brings, but wondering if I should keep pumping and if I should continue to feed her every three hours at night?
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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2010, 21:12:02 pm »
I was on about to post, and I read your thread. Your problem is my problem. 12 weeks and latching and unlatching all the time. At night she eats very well at 23:00 - 03:00 -  but during the day is a disaster. She is so aware of her surrounding that gets distracted too easily ( and doesn´t matter if we are in a dark room) plus she gets so much air bobbing on and off that I have to burp her all the time..BUT...this does not happen with the bottle which I have tried yesterday ( I expressed to keep the supply).
With my oldest daughter happened the same and by 4 mts we were finished with BF. I would like not too mess this time because I really care about BF.
Is it a common thing at this age?

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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2010, 17:08:06 pm »
Had another question....

I have been feeding both sides pretty much from the start.  I would let her finish one side and then offer her the other, she would usually only take about half or so.  Now, since she started having issues, she will only take a bit from the one side before she bobs on and off so I offer her the second one just so she gets something in her.  I basically just switch back and forth in hopes that she will eventually get some hind milk.  It seems as though she just can't concentrate on one side long enough.  Is that okay?  If I keep putting her back on the same breast she won't eat. 

I'm still worried about my supply as she only nursed a little bit at one feeding in the night so I got some formula that I had and she took 3 oz.  Should I be worried?
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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2010, 20:39:08 pm »
Hiya,
 Just reading along and thought of putting some ideas out there for you and see what you think:
-thought that maybe your LO is just not hungry enough - especially if she's feeding every 3 hrs at night, could that be why she's not feeding so well during the day? If that is the case I would suggest you start extending the gap between NF just as you would during the day when transition to 3.5/4hr EASY, just by 5-15 minute increments
Another thing for me was always that I tried to avoid feeding mine at night in intervals shorter than they were doing during the day, if that makes sense. So If they were feeding every 3 hrs during the day, I would avoid as much as possible to feed at night in less than 3hrs.

- http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/letdown.html Maybe a possibility as well? Have you tried http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=88759.0?

- also wondered if you have seen this link yet about low supply - http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=65905.0

Let me know what you think
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Re: 13 wo disinterested in feeding?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 20:58:04 pm »
Thanks.  I was thinking the same thing about the length of feeds.  I'm just worried because the same thing happened with my son at this age and he only gained 1/2 oz. in a month.  He was classified as "failure to thrive" even though he was happy.  I tried to supplement with formula but he generally wasn't interested.  I thought I did have a bit of a supply problem, but obviously it worked itself out as I went on to BF until he was 8 months at which point I did simply "dry up" and I didn't force the issue.

I will try to extend the night feedings a bit as well although I'm not sure if everyone else in the house will appreciate it as I'm sure DD will have something to say about it!  I basically just have to get through the next couple of weeks with the holidays and all the inconsistencies it brings.  After that we'll be ditching the paci and hopefully start a bit of pu/pd if required to help her get over it as she really seems to dislike shh/pat.

I guess I will just have faith that my body is taking care of things and when in doubt, I will just feed her anyway.  I'll continue to pump a bit to try to get a bit of a gauge of my supply although I know it is fairly unreliable.

thanks for the support!
Carli