This is in flux for us. I hated the 8 p.m. bed although it left us more time in the evening, he would easily get into a second wind and then wasn't going off until later anyway. Then waking later in the morning (praise be) but it didn't fit with our schedule. So I prefer 7:30, in fact that is perfect for us and I feel like I still have an evening. But with this nap cutting business it has to jump all over the place. Grrrr.