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Offline emily3434

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when a nap is missed...
« on: July 18, 2011, 00:59:59 am »
My little man will be 11 months next week.  Currently we are doing 2 naps, at 10:30 am and between 2:30-3 pm.  each nap is 1 hour - sometimes the afternoon is a tad longer.  he's been fairly consistent on this routine for about a month (and now that I think about it - that’s probably the longest he ever stayed on a routine!!!)  So, on Sundays we attend church, and it lands during his afternoon nap time - we get home around 3:30 or 4, and he is obviously tired!!  it takes a while to get him down at this point.

for example, today we kept having to go up to sooth him, and he finally fell asleep at 4:30...and was still asleep by 5:30 - so we woke him. 

I'm wondering if that’s too long for such a late nap (since we are definitely in the middle of bedtime issues) and I am pretty confident we will have an early waking tomorrow morning (due to the late nap)

so how do we manage?  he NEEDS to sleep, he is super cranky...early bedtime has never been very successful - he doesn't seem to be able to sleep longer than 11 hours at night regardless of when he goes down.  so do I limit the nap and if so, how much, and just bump bedtime like 30 minutes?  It’s so hard to wake him after spending so long getting him settled





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Re: when a nap is missed...
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 19:53:36 pm »
Yes I would just limit the nap to 45 minutes and then make bedtime a bit later.   Early bedtimes didn't work for us so I just did what I needed to do to get through to a reasonable bedtime. 

Will he not fall asleep in the car on the way home?





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Re: when a nap is missed...
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 13:42:22 pm »
sometimes he falls asleep in the car, not always, but wakes as soon as the car stops moving - poor kid.  this happens every week, and we always have a fight at bedtime, and a hard day on monday.  I will try a shorter nap this week.





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Re: when a nap is missed...
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2011, 03:38:55 am »
have you ever thought about this?  just a suggestion:  attend church at an optional time or fellowship on another day/evening of the wk., even if this means that you can "church" after the kid(s) go to bed.   

i have 2 little ones whose naps overlap, but always occur right at around the time of sunday morning church services.  i prayed through this and feel at peace with ministering first to my young children at this time. 

the establishment of "church" in the traditional sunday service style is exactly that--an established tradition.  mind you, not necessarily bad, but not technically biblical either.  i'm a minister's daughter, and i believe that my parents had been sensitive to the need of their own young children's naps as well as to those to whom they ministered.  and, if napping is in the daily routine of the life of families with young children, then it is a critical area of ministry to the parents of those children.  by that, i mean that this is an area of ministry by those parents to their children as well as an area of ministry by those in the church to those parents.  like, perhaps "church" comes to the homes of those families so that their children can sleep while they fellowship/worship in that home.  a new idea?  not at all!  if churches can't be flexible like that, for temporary reasons, then they really don't attend well to the needs of young families.  after all, would they expect those in the hospital to attend church or would they bring church to them?

when my firstborn was under a yr. old, and had not yet established a set time for naps (i hadn't been on e.a.s.y then), i was worship leading at church and would strap her on a baby carrier through all the music.  good intentions, bad idea.  she had always had sleep problems from day one, and i only exacerbated them.  hence, eventually, in desperation, i read about e.a.s.y. and re-established her sleeping pattern.  as i started to establish her nap time on a daily basis, i found that if her nap time changed for anything past half an hr.--never mind missing a nap altogether, or having it shifted for several hrs.--all of her sleeping would be messed up.  in turn, it would also mess up her appetite and energy level, affecting ultimately everything.  then, it would take her 3 days to get back into order.  that meant half of the wk. was spent re-establishing her sleep pattern.  very stressful.  when sunday came, the agony would repeat itself for the whole family.  also, both my babies tended to scream through car rides than sleep ESPECIALLY when they were overtired!  that's when i seriously prayed over it and received the revelation of ministering first to the needs of my family rather than the "family of god" at large.  right now, this is the greatest blessing i can give, and a blessing that will have many returns in the future.  any minister who might criticize me is simply not cognizant of this basic need in families with young children, and thus, i would consider an immature minister.  eventually, our family started to meet up with other families of young children, and we rotated homes on sunday afternoons.  this way, even if a certain parent couldn't meet up every sunday, this parent would still have church meet up with him/her every few wks. 

if church is part of your life, the important thing to remember is that jesus is not religious.  he came to build relationships of the heart, and parents--especially the mother--are the first, most fundamental relationship for a baby.  our sacrifices are the first sacrifices they experience; our blessings are the first blessings they experience.  it is through our eyes that they first perceive a glimpse of god.  love is not about keeping image on the outside; it's about what germinates and grows in the heart where things are often initially unseen and all too easily overlooked by others.  personally, i had experienced criticism.  when i explained that my choice was one of sacrifice (for the time being) and that god accepted it as good and pleasing to him, i wasn't heard.  i know that because i continued to be questioned negatively.  but, that's ok.  i wasn't doing it for "them", but for my children, my family, and god.  this is why i would say that any church person who criticizes me for not attending regular, traditional church for the sake of my children really doesn't understand who god is.  for them, church is probably more of a club than a family of god.  love doesn't judge; love accommodates without compromise.

i just really feel for your little boy, and your pain at his distress...because i've been there.  so, please give my suggestion some thought and prayer.

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Re: when a nap is missed...
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2011, 10:21:28 am »
When my LOs were small we alternated who went to church each week or else one of us left early.   Intially we did keep going but it just wasn't worth it in the long term as LO was so unsettled that day and the next day.  It really was only for a few months and then we were able to go again together. 

I think pp put it really nicely xx





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Re: when a nap is missed...
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 20:57:14 pm »
thanks, shiv52.  alternating wks. is an excellent idea, too.  thx for sharing that!  i often wonder how other church-going parents do it, since we live in a small town where we were only 1 of 2 families with young children.  the other family's kids were a few yrs. older than mine, so they were done with naps.  this is before we started meeting in homes.

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Re: when a nap is missed...
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 21:14:47 pm »
Sleeping beauty I loved your post.  We have not been going to church as it falls at S and E time!!  It made me feel bad but now I have some peace of mind that I'm doing the right thing for my baby. :-) 

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Re: when a nap is missed...
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 21:21:59 pm »
Someone gave me a 'mothers prayer' when DD1 was very little and the jist of it is that God understands what it is to be a mother and that it is for a short period of time and not to stress about praying and church not being the same for this short time. 






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Re: when a nap is missed...
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2011, 00:36:23 am »
butterfly, speaking of E time, when my baby was starting solids, i used to bring my baby's meal with me and feed her 2/3 of the way through the church service.  my husband would gladly take over except during the early part of solids, i would breastfeed afterwards...which he couldn't help with.  i remember being stressed in trying to juggle the baby, worship leading, attending whatever portion of the church service i could, and cleaning up after the feeding.  once, i returned to the sanctuary with my blouse still unbuttoned until i caught myself seconds before entering the room.  ugh!  under such stress, who really worships anyway?

fact is, little ones just can't wait that long when they're hungry, and yes, their inner clock is very sensitive, as--thank god--it should be when healthy.  the thing that makes tracy hogg's e.a.s.y. plan so successful and practical is that while it maintains order in the life of the parents/family, it TRULY MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE BABY as well.   it's respectful to everyone, all around.  in perspective, isn't it just as much poor parenting to expect lo's to follow our meal schedules when at such a young age they naturally need to eat more often, as it is to expect them to follow adult schedules in any other aspect of life, incl. traditional church? 

honestly, i think the secular world would call us nuts--perhaps, rightly so--for dragging our children around, depriving them of sleep and food, just so we could "do church" traditionally.  i might even add that it's somewhat hypocritical if we consider ourselves bearers and carriers of god's love. 

and, as shiv52 said, this time of intense mothering is indeed very short in the span of a lifetime.  i believe that serving little ones with a heart of sacrifice and joy at this highly dependent age is a priority, a privilege, and a gift in god's eyes.  how we treat our children at this tender age will reflect on how they learn what love is--its costs, its rewards, its power, and its blessings multiplied.