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NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« on: December 11, 2012, 22:25:06 pm »
This is a weird one. Over the last few weeks we've had increasing NW's. There's lots going on that could be contributing to it, but I have a hunch I want to run past you guys.

Lets start with the basics - she's on 1 nap, and that's been a recent change in the last month. But the first week she was on 1 nap she slept through the night every night. Then the NWs started. She's also recently started at the childminders full time - she has been going there for a few days a week since September and is well settled, naps well and is happy all day.

Routine is WU between 6.30 and 7, nap now fixed at 12.30 til 2.30 (don't let her sleep past 3) and bedtime between 7 and 7.30.

The NWs are anytime between 1.30 to 4.30/5. She wakes up fully, seems mad, frustrated more than upset, and WILL NOT go back to sleep whatever we do. We have tried meds, a drink, staying in with her, leaving her, etc etc etc. Mostly we give up and have her in with us, which doesn't necessarily get her back to sleep any quicker, it just means we can get her back to sleep while staying warm and lying down - it can still take half an hour for her to settle. More recently we got the feeling she wanted a bottle (we dropped night feeds at about 8/9 months) and have tested the theory, and it consistently works, and we also now know that she doesn't care if its milk or water. And she doesn't drink much, she wants it to suck on and will fall asleep with it clamped in her mouth.

She had a dummy up until about 6 months when we weaned her off it  - fairly easily. So I was wondering if there was any known regression for wanting to suck? Or could it be teeth? OR a problem with her ears?

Would you just let her have a bottle of water in her cot overnight? I bought a dummy today to see if she'd take to that, but no joy so far....

any thoughts? anything we could be missing?

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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 22:26:02 pm »
How old is she now H?





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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 22:32:57 pm »
She was one on the 21st......

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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2012, 19:11:17 pm »
Does she go to sleep on her own for naps and bedtime? 

Water in her cot might be an idea xx

How are you?  I was thinking the other day I havne't seen you much.  I can't believe your gorgeous girl is 1!!!





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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2012, 20:28:58 pm »
Yes she does - as long as the timings right she's always been brilliant at going to sleep by herself - we've never even had to sit in with her - literally plop her down and walk out.

I would be happy with the water  in her cot apart from the fact its not the water she wants, but the bottle as opposed to a sippy cup iyswim. She's using the bottle to suck on.....

We're good hun, just sooo busy getting through each day each of us getting to where we're supposed to be and making sure we're fed and clothed, and that's about all we manage!

I miss you all here, and i feel rotten that I only have time to be on when I really need help!!

 

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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2012, 20:44:48 pm »
I miss you all here, and i feel rotten that I only have time to be on when I really need help!!
Well thats why this site is so good.  And you'll be back when you have more time!

So any teeth?  Do you think she OT from moving to the one nap and its catching up?  Given shes so good at going to sleep its not a prop issue so must be  something else at play.





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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2012, 09:19:09 am »
She has 2 teeth towards the back. Oming through at the top but I don't think it's that, there are none of the other signs and she doesn't seem distressed in that way.

The last 3 nights have been classic - WU every night at different times. So it's been like this...

Nap 1240 to 2.55
Asleep 7.30
NW from 1.30 to 2.30 - awake and quiet for 30 mins playing with her music, cried out I gave her a drink and meds and left her, took 30 mins to go back by herself
Awake 7.15
Nap 12.30 to 2 (unusual normally does 2hrs)
Asleep 7pm
NW 05.15 to 06.20 - woke up crying, yells like she's mad, have her in with us, still takes her 20 mins to settles
Awake. 7am
Nap. 12.30 to 2.40
Bed at 6.30, took til 7 to go to sleep *thought I'd try EBT as she was an hour short on night sleep
NW 4am - dirty nappy x2 in 30 mins, b2s by herself by 4.30
Awake 7am

See how random it is? She does have a touch of diarea ATM but this has been going on well before that.....

She could be OT from 1 nap but I'm not sure what I can so about it - when I try EBT she takes longer to go to sleep. She cruises through the A times no problems - I remember wfh H at this stage he would collapse into bed an OT mess after a day at the childminders, Beth is fine... ( well seemingly).

Utterly clueless and fed fed up - just want 1 night off!!

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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2012, 12:58:48 pm »
Well there some monster teeth on the way, big ones down the side at the bottom. I still don't know if that's the only cause, last night was the same - yesterday She napped for 2 hours 20, then was asleep at 7.30, awake at 4 in the night, took 45 mins or so to go back and woke at 7....

Anymore ideas?

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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2012, 14:37:08 pm »
The teeth could be causing havoc.

I did wonder about UT though. That day where she slept over 2 hours then was up for an hour she had only 4.5 a time to bed. Both mine would have needed well over 5 hours after such a decent nap to get a decent night. Same for the night you tried EBT.  What do you think?





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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2012, 23:02:45 pm »
No it's a good point - it's always been tricky to suss out OT/UT with her - she rarely struggles at the end of the day unless she's not feeling well, regardless of how much sleep she's had or not had.

Will try a later bedtime and see - although yesterday she only napped for 1.5 hrs til 2, BT at 7 and then woke around 10.30 crying on and off for 45 mins or so, but then slept through til 6.30.....

Today she has baboon bum as well as a runny bum so I'm more convinced her teeth must be very sore - I didn't think they got molars yet?


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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2012, 21:13:29 pm »
Poor wee lady. Must be the teeth. Least she went through after that 10pm wakening. But later bedtime might help.





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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2012, 21:45:39 pm »
Thanks Shiv. I feel really bad if it is the teeth as its been going on for so long now that she doesn't get much sympathy and she probably just wants a cuddle. 1.30 to 2.30 last night  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2012, 07:57:19 am »
Hows it going H? Has it settled any?





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Re: NWs and will only settle with a bottle......
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2012, 21:06:00 pm »
Still all over the lace tbh Hun. Some better nights sleeping through, then randomly a NW again when nothing has changed in her routine. We travelled away for Christmas in the evening, put the kids in the car at bedtime and she stayed awake for 3 hours til 10....quite happy, but awake. So we let her sleep longer for her nap today, and she's paying us back by being awake still now....sigh. Most NWs we've given in and just give her a bottle of water to suck on and she puts herself back to sleep that way. I'll tackle it all another time, were away for the week and I'm too tired to stress abut it!,,,

Have a lovely day tomorrow, thanks for checking up on us,

H