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Night Wakings for 6 month old - Please help!
« on: January 06, 2013, 01:34:56 am »
How old is your child? - 6 months today!
What's his/her daily routine? not really fixed times for everything, although we are working towards that.  I have a schedule in mind be we don't hit it every day.
What’s nap routine? - I lay him down at least three times per day with the intent of napping. Lucky if he goes 45 minutes.  Then out of the blue he will go two hours and I wake him for fear of causing MORE night problems.
What's bedtime routine? VERY Solid.  Bath, bed clothes, book, bottle.  up to 6 oz of formula at that last feeding to try to hold him over as much as possible.
Time? 8 pm every night for last at least 2 months
Do you bottle or breastfed?? Breast and bottle. He goes back and forth very easily, and we have added the formula feeding at bed.  No issues there.  He's easy that way.
How much? His daycare bottles are 5 1/2 oz...  or how long? On me - it probably 6 minutes a side, both sides each time
How many wakes per night? sometimes 3 times between 8-11....  ALWAYS between 10:30 and 11pm.  another 3 or so between 3am and 5 am .
We don't pick him up and can spend 15-20 minutes settling him back down. Then might go until 1-2am.  This is generally when I feed him on me with breast.  I don't mind at all if this feeding stays in place for now....  We just need help on the random, for no reason night wakings.

What’s your LO like when waking at night? He fusses, then works up to a cry. 
How long is he/she up? rarely you can just go put his pasi back in and really never touch him and he goes back to sleep, but most of the time it take 15-20 minutes of patting touching to settle him back.  He seems to fight it.  Arms will be up and grabbing at my wrist, then fall back, only to spring back up, then fall a little further.  Also, he seems to really have a tactile touch thing.  he can be crying with tears, eyes shut when i get to the crib in his room and just place my hand on the side of his face/head and he will IMMEDIATELY stop crying.  takes more time to work him back to to sleep though.
Or is it a mantra cry? Not sure what this is.
What have you tried to settle?? We used to pick him up/rock him/feed him.... but not anymore.  The only time we get him out is for the feeding, dad sometimes gets him out and let's him fall asleep on his chest to get some sleep.  We do shifts each night.  i have everything from 8pm-3am - Dad has anything between 3am and 6:30...
What do you do for A time and how long is it? if you mean awake time, hes active and happy during the days.
Are there developmental issues such as teething or milestones? Haven't noticed teeth yet, but they should be soon.
Have you introduced cereal? Yes. Why, how much, and how many times a day? (for LO’s under 6 months) Just a couple of teaspoons, once a day and once a day for a few spoons of veggie.  To get him used to eating on a spoon.
Do they have a prop? If so what is it? I suppose he has us trained to come when summoned.
Do they have a lovie? - Just started this, but have concerns about placing it in the crib this young.

So all those questions answered.... but we still can't seem to solve the night wakings.  Believe it or not things have improved.  We have gone from three night feedings down to 1 good one and Dad's resorting to bottle when he can't get him to settle back down.  Sometimes, that feeding at 3 or 4or 5 he will only take an ounce or two, so I know he doesn't need it.... We are ready to do the cry it out or some variation of it.  I am perfectly content with one night waking and feeding sometime likely between 1-2....  no complaints....  he just can't/won't settle himself back to sleep on his own and I don't know how to teach him that. He has put himself to sleep at bedtime MANY times.  no crying, fighting about it or fussing.... so I know he can do it...

What are we doing wrong?

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Night Wakings for 6 month old - Please help!
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2013, 03:55:23 am »
Hi, welcome to BW :)

We're against CIO/CC here - we believe it breaks the bond of trust between baby and mum, here's some info:
Research on why 'cry it out' and 'controlled crying' is NOT recommended!
Cry it out (CIO): 10 reasons why it is not for us
Kara & Alexandra's Story

Most of the time, if we can get your daytime routine sorted out, the night wakings tend to disappear, or at least get much better and then we can address the night-time issues. Can you write out what's you're aiming for as a day routine? as well as what has actually happened for a day or two, in EAS format?

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Re: Night Wakings for 6 month old - Please help!
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2013, 17:11:28 pm »
I'm not sure what you mean by EAS?  it wasn't on the acromnym page?

schedule we are working towards is:
 
Mom and dad up at 6:30
breat feed 6:45-7:00
small amount onf oatmeal at 7am
8-9:30 some sort of nap in there - usually never more than 45 minutes
10:30 or 11:00 feed again
11-12 possible nap if needed
2:30 feed again
3-4:30 some sort of nap - sometimes this one is a little longer
6:30 feed again and then some baby food - few teaspoons
8pm BED
1-2 am feed in the night

Thanks!

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Re: Night Wakings for 6 month old - Please help!
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 09:08:33 am »
Ok, so she's waking up at about 6:30, then?

For her age, she's not really awake long enough to nap more than 45min in the morning, then she's probably getting overtired from short naps through the rest of the day and not sleeping great. Here's a suggested routine that you could tweak:
7 - wake, BF
8 - solids
10 - nap
11:30/12 - wake, BF
2:30/3 - nap
4/4:30 - wake, BF
6:30 - BF
7/7:30 - asleep in bed for the night

Something else to consider - is the cereal iron fortified? If so, is she a little constipated? Iron fortified cereals can have that effect, particularly with BF babies whose systems aren't used to the extra iron. Solids later in the day can also cause some disgestive discomfort during the night...