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DS will be 5 mo tomorrow and this week his routine has gone crazy.  He suddenly won't nap more than 35-45 mins (whereas I used to have to wake him up at the 2hr mark nearly every time), and he is waking around 5 or 5:30 am instead of the 6:30/7am wake up he used to do.  I posted on the Night Wakings board about the sudden early waking and I was directed the the 3-2 transition sticky.   When I read it, nearly all of the bullet points that describe the signs that he may be ready describe exactly how he has been this past week. 

He has been on a 4hr EASY for the past month and we generally have been shooting for these times:
W/U and E - 7:00
S - 9:00
E - 11:00
S - 1:00
E - 3:00
S - 5:00 (45 min CN)
E - 7:00
S - 8:00
E - 10:30 DF
E - Usually wakes around 2 or 3 for a night feed

We transitioned him from a 3 hr EASY within just a few days and he settled right into this new routine with no problem.  He had been doing great with his naps, almost always having 1.5 to 2 hr naps for his morning and early afternoon naps.  He has always fought the CN a little, but we would generally be able to get him to go down by 5:15 or 5:30, at least for 30 mins. 

Things started to go haywire on Monday night/Tuesday morning when he woke early around 5:30am.  He was happy and chatting in his crib.  We eventually went in when he got more restless and got him to sleep 30 more mins until about 6:30.  That day (Tuesday), he still napped ok taking two 1.5 hour naps and a 40 min CN.  He went to bed around 8pm, but woke during the dream feed and it took 30 mins to get him back to sleep (this never happens!).  He woke again for his night feed at 2:30am, and again woke himself completely and it took another hour to get him back to sleep.  He woke again happy and ready to play around 5:30.  I think we may have gotten him to sleep another 20 or 30 mins max.  That day, (Wednesday), his naps started to go off.  He wouldn't sleep more than 45 mins for any nap.  A couple of naps we were successful in getting him back to sleep for an additional 45 mins, but most times we were not able to do that.  The next few days were essentially the same thing: short naps and early waking.  Last night he refused the CN so we had to put him down early around 6:45 and he woke this morning at 4:30.  I was able to get him back to sleep at 5:30 and he slept until 7:15.  He showed signs of being tired at 9:00, so put him down at 9:15 and he woke at 9:55.  Was able to get him back to sleep after about 5 mins, and he slept 5 mins.  Took 5 more mins to get him to sleep again, then slept 5 more mins.  This pattern continued for the next 45 mins or so before I gave up and got him up.

So I'm wondering based on what I have described above if it sounds like he is ready for the 3-2 transition?  The signs fit, but I'm also wondering if his routine could just be off because of the holidays and having extra people around.  My MIL was staying with us for a few days this past week which I'm sure didn't help and there has just been more family in general around him.  We have tried to keep him from getting over stimulated and tried to keep him on his same routine, but it just seems to have spiraled out of control. 

Anyone have any thoughts on this?  I don't want to rush into the 3-2 transition if he isn't ready since he is on the very early side of it at just 5 months.  I also wanted to try to get him to drop the night feed as I think he is probably ready for that.  I'm also not sure he could handle 4.5 hours between feeds as he is EBF and just started cereal, though he hasn't really gotten the hang of it yet and doesn't eat that much.

I appreciate any input anyone may have and thanks for your hard work answering these questions.  Happy holidays!   :)

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Re: LO ready for 3-2 transition or EASY just gone wonky during the holidays?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 08:50:47 am »
Hi there, sorry we missed this just before Christmas! How have things been over the past few days?

It does sound like he's heading towards the 3-2 - he is young for it though, so I wouldn't push him too far too fast. You could start by pushing the A times out by 10 mins and cap the catnap as short as you need to in order to still have a reasonable bedtime. Just remember if you cap the catnap (say 20-30 mins) he'll need a shorter A to bed as well.

How many weeks is he? I wonder if this mental leap could also be affecting things: http://www.thewonderweeks.com/index.php/about-the-wonder-weeks/your-babys-10-leaps/mental-leap-4
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Re: LO ready for 3-2 transition or EASY just gone wonky during the holidays?
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 03:37:41 am »
Hi, thanks for the reply.  Things are a little better, but still a bit off.  The good thing is that the really early morning wakings seem to have shifted back to a more normal time range of around 6:15-7am.  I've also had some success the past few days extending the naps by going into his room after he has been napping for about 35 minutes and waiting for him to jolt, then keeping my hands on him until he settles into the next sleep cycle. 

The catnap is still very difficult to get him to take.  Yesterday it took 30 minutes to get him down and we probably let him sleep a little too long which pushed BT back until almost 9.  It has also been difficult to get him to sleep at bedtime as well.  Both yesterday and today it took him well over 30 minutes to settle for bed.  He goes down easy for his other naps, it is just the CN and BT that are so difficult. 

I will try to push the A times by 10 minutes and see how that goes. 

He is 22 weeks, so not sure if the mental leap would still be affecting him at this point? 

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Re: LO ready for 3-2 transition or EASY just gone wonky during the holidays?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 15:31:28 pm »
He is 22 weeks, so not sure if the mental leap would still be affecting him at this point? 

They are calculated from due date - was he early? And not all LOs hit them exactly on time, although usually pretty close. But it may be unrelated ;)

Good luck for pushing the A times over the next few days :)
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