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13 month old tantrums in the night
« on: September 28, 2013, 03:57:06 am »
My 13 month old had started sleeping through but this week has Ben waking around 4am and wanting me to stay with him until he falls asleep. If he hears me leave the room he screams and has an absolute tantrum! Throws his dummy, screams and kicks cot bars. I'm trying to ignore daytime tantrums as he's pretending to cry a lot to get his own way but don't know how to tackle this sleep issue. He was awake 3am-6am the other night. I sat with him for 1.5 hours but he woke every time I tried to leave room! Help! His routine is

6am wake
11am sleep-1pm
6.30 bed (used to be 7.30 but thought he may be OT)

This routine has worked well for the last month or so
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Re: 13 month old tantrums in the night
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2013, 04:36:38 am »
I forgot to add during the day he is an agel child for everyone else but for me he whinges and fake cries and is very clingy. He is not in nursery. I look after him 5 days a week and the other 2 days he spends with his grandparents. Am I rewarding the fake crying and so he is doing it in the night to get his way too? I have been trying hard not to reward any fake crying/whining during the day and its getting less but he is still very attached to me!

At bed time he had bottle and story and put down drowsy/awake. He isn't teething.
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Re: 13 month old tantrums in the night
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2013, 05:48:23 am »
Hugs hun.. I can assure you he isn't "fake" crying... he's still a baby by all accounts and will prefer you for certain needs (as all babies generally do).. his method might not be endearing but he is communicating a need to you.

I would agree that it is OT related for sure.. sleep hormones drop at 4am and waking at that time is usually a sign of OT - they are no longer biologically driven to sleep by hormones so the OT rears it's head and they become very restless and unhappy.  If he was happy to be awake, we could rule out OT.

I would keep his day to a max of 12 hrs with a 2 hr nap.   

Is he restless during his nap at all?

I know you said he isn't teething but does he have his 1 yr molars yet? 



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Re: 13 month old tantrums in the night
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2013, 07:07:17 am »
He doesn't have his molars no. I will have him in be by 6 tonight and see if that helps. When I say he fake cries I mean he does not for a biscuit, a carry etc- there are no tears and he stops the second he gets what he wants? I don't want him to think this is the way to get things?
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Re: 13 month old tantrums in the night
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2013, 07:07:45 am »
Sorry forgot to add he sleeps sound at his nap
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Re: 13 month old tantrums in the night
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2013, 04:11:43 am »
Ahh, so not "fake crying" so much as whining to get what he wants.  He is quite young and it's fairly common for them to do this since they really can't communicate effectively with you yet.  The best way I found to address it here was to realize that DD wasn't trying to be whiny etc, but that she was simply frustrated and trying to get some message across to me.  I would get down to her level (crouch if she was standing next to me for example) and speak to her with a very understanding voice.. try to convey to LO that you are trying to understand what he is telling/asking you.  Use the words to say back to him what he seems to want - so, try getting down to his level and saying "are you trying to tell me that you want XX?  Watch for his reaction... if he smiles or stops the whiny bit, you are safe to assume you have hit the nail on the head... then of course, if the answer is no to the request - be prepared for real tears.  It's okay for them to cry when you say no, it's their way of telling you that they are sad cause they can't have whatever it was.  Best plan for that - offer something else that he can have while giving a quick explanation of why you said no (something like - I know you want a cookie, but it's almost dinner time.. it will fill your tummy and you won't be able to eat your dinner.  How about we play with XXX together?"

Just a note about the molars - DD had no change in eating habits with them.. all other teeth she would be off food for a few days and it was clear it was hurting.. I suspect the molars weren't so much an issue with food because they generally don't use that part of their mouths to chew things quite yet.

How did the early bedtime go?



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Re: 13 month old tantrums in the night
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2013, 14:53:27 pm »
I do do all of that during the day and I do see an improvement but at night he just won't let me discuss anything with him as he whines then when I go to him he will lie back down and try to go off to sleep but as soon as I leave the room he has an absolute tantrum and then the real tears start along with kicking etc.

Last night he woke 12,1 and 3. I spent around 2.5 hours just sat by his cot with my hand on his back to calm him down. I think I need to maybe just accept he's having a rough time at night and wants comfort of me there. I just don't want him to form bad habits so I worry to give in is teaching him whining gets him what he wants? What do you think? I can't feel any teething but he was a little warm yesterday evenin so I have him some ibruprofen. Maybe I should try a top up at 12ish an see if that helps him?


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Re: 13 month old tantrums in the night
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2013, 21:59:16 pm »
A quick update... My LO slept until 5am with no wake ups so a bit of an improvement. He's been b clingy at bedtime so I think I need to go at his pace and slowly move out of his room (he currently screams I I leave the room) after I put him down over the next week or so. Do you think that's the right thing to do?
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Re: 13 month old tantrums in the night
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2013, 03:21:41 am »
Hun, I would never tell you to push him too fast.  I am the hugest softie with night sleep ;)  If he is really having a tough time it could be developmentally driven too.  I found that DD tends to have times like this every few months.. the best way I have found to get her through it with the least amount of crying/upset is to snuggle until she is drowsy, then just tell her it's bedtime and put her down (this prevents the upset from me putting her in her crib I find).  I actually had to do this tonight because of a touch of OT happening.  I find that the bad habits generally don't happen if you keep a mind to get back to independent sleep but do so gently as they reach developmental blips.. make sense?

And yes, if you are thinking it might be teeth - try medicating.  If it was pain related, he will go back to sleep much easier.. if not, at least you know!