night training = ew poo

[Aishi]

So stupidly i thought it would be a good idea to night train ds. We went from wearing a nappy at bt to pull ups and having morning wee in potty. He knows to put his lamp on and use potty in morning and is doing really well with it. However his wu has gone from 6.45/ 7 to 6, 5.30 and 5 today  and hes not going back to sleep.

He will be 4 in june, does 7-6.30/7, sleeps in total darkness and has only started to poo in morning since night training this week. What are my options? plod along and hope he starts going back to sleep or go back to nappies and tell him to sleep through as he used to cos he not ready for big boy nappies?! Im inclined to the latter...i cant do more ews after hes finally been sttn after years of ew!!

oh i let him have a nap yesterday (he dropped it months ago) in hope to minimise ot but he still woke early and had nws.

any btdt? thoughts?

tia xx

[barbaraz78]

Well, the 5 am wu could be also due to the OT for the nap. If F has a nap, 10 h night is really the max he can do...
I would probably leave it for a couple of weeks and see how it goes. Especially if he is dry during the night, this tells me that he's ready. If it is a new thing, it is probably due to the novelty of the potty in his room, and should go back to normal. Like every transition, some bad sleep can be expected.
Of course, I totally get you on the frustration for EW again, though!

Just to mention that F is far far far to be dry at night, but he was doing his morning pee in the pull up, so we also put the potty in his room and asked him to wee there if he wakes up. Before he was doing it every morning, now only some mornings. And he doesn't wake up for this now, I am sure.

[Aishi]

thats it though barbara- hes still got a wet pull up from the night so i dont think he is ready yet. so do i still give it time or just try again in a couple of months? also i dont get why hes waking to have a poo so early?! hes regular as clockwork usually and has a poo fter 6.45…

the ew are brutal, i know ur having a rough time of it too he woke at 5!! this am so dont know if i should let him nap or just go for 6.30 bt....i know hes gonna struggle without a nap today. I thought this 1-0 was over!

[barbaraz78]

I think the 1-0 is over for you, just some days of ew are unavoidable even in the best sleepers! We all have days in which we sleep less and sometimes we don't know why (at least I do). If it is only one or two days of ew, then I would simply go with the normal routine and maybe a slightly earlier bt. We did even 14 h days when F had ew!  He manages OT quite well anyway, until immediately before bed.

As I said, I introduced the potty and now he is used to it. What I did, when I suspect that it encouraged ew, was not to mention it during the day nor before going to bed, just leaving it in the room in case he wakes up and remembers... But as we have introduced it, when he woke up he would have asked to pee anyway, so it was better if he did it in his room in the potty.

[Aishi]

Ok woke at 5.30 again too poop! thats 4 days in a row

anyway to get him to poop later??! cut out fruit after a certain time? later dinner?

[barbaraz78]

Is it possible that he needs to poop as soon as he wakes up? No idea how discouraging this though...How was his night?