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Offline Natazha

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Hi All

I just wanted to shout out to the incredible women who have helped me in this forum in the past 6 weeks and I want to pay it forward to anyone who is struggling with getting their babies to sleep independently. I stumbled onto Baby Whisperer after my 7 week old angel baby suddenly stopped sleeping and napping. I read (about 100 times!) how to do shush pat and how to teach her to sleep independently, and then set out to do it. Even though the next 6 weeks were the most frustrating/challenging/tiring parenting I have ever done (I also have a 3 year old), I was adamant that this time, my baby wouldn't CIO (like I did for DD1) and so I followed Tracy's advice to the letter.

It definitely worked but in the first 4-5 weeks, it was taking me between 20-45 mins of shush patting to put her down, with multiple wake ups 5 mins after I left. Her naps were 30-45 mins long (but took 45 mins to put her down!) and I was doing 6 NWs a night and exhausted! Needless to say, it seemed futile and I almost gave up... almost...

And then she hit 3 months and 1 week old (adjusted age 3 months), and that magic 11lb weight - and literally over night she suddenly started putting herself to sleep for ALL naps with minimal (<5 mins) or no crying/fussing! So I just wanted to let you know that if you're struggling and wondering if all this time investment is worth it, it is!

If you're interested, here is what I did:

She is on a 2.5 hr EASY (works best with her because of her reflux) and we're doing more of a EAEAS or EASAEAS. She sleeps in a bassinet in our room. First, I worked on stopping nursing her to sleep during the day only (I still nurse her to sleep at BT) - she HATED that and protested tremendously. Then I took away my AP - jiggling and rocking her to sleep. I introduced a new wind down routine that included about 10 mins of just walking around the house or outside with her at the end of her A time, so that she was no longer being so ultra stimulated. Then we go upstairs (while I say, it's time for your nap now), swaddle her, turn on her sound machine and I sing her a song. Before I would shush pat at this point (she hated sitting and would fight me hard). She seemed to HATE the shush patting too, but I found that singing a song to her and patting her shoulder gently worked better for her. So I sing to her and walk around the room for 2-3 mins and then put her down in her bassinet on her side supported by a wedge and say 'Its time to go to sleep now'. For the first 4-5 weeks, she would protest loudly at this point and I'd have to pick her up and walk around the room again for a few mins, sometimes 4-5 times.

Exactly one week ago, I put her down and made sure she was asleep and then went for a shower. After a very quick shower, when I turned the water off, I suddenly heard her wailing. It was very cold and so I couldn't just rush to her as is my inclination - I had to dry off and put some clothes on. Until then I had never really let her cry - couldn't bear it. But through the ST, I did start to learn the difference between her hunger cries, her protest cries and her real cries. Anyway, I dried off and put my clothes on quickly and in the 3 mins it took, her protest cries started calming down to mantra cries and she was asleep before I could get to her. Emboldened by how that happened, her next nap, I did the above routine and put her down drowsy but totally awake and left the room (I stood outside the door!) and listened. She did not let out a peep and just fell asleep. The next nap, she protested for about 5 mins, I went to pick her up and calm her down and when I put her down again, she again slept easily. Day 5 was the most challenging and I think it was her last ditch effort to protest this new routine but I kept it consistent and just kept going back every 3-5 mins to calm her down and pick her up if necessary to calm her back down again. So in the past 7 days, she has done 28 naps where she put herself to sleep.

I typed the above a week ago and she has now done 2 weeks of putting herself to sleep before naps and is now starting to do it at bt too (I make sure she's awake after nursing and do the same routine). We have also traveled for Thanksgiving and she put herself to sleep in a brand new environment and in a new room/crib within minutes! This has made life SO much easier for me and it has made all that shush patting so worth it. So if you're contemplating starting Baby Whisperer, take it from me, it is a miracle. I had the worst 6 weeks where she was not sleeping at all and now her naps are starting to extend automatically and she goes down like a dream!

Now onto tackle the NWs! :)


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Thank you for sharing. We are starting sleep training today. Even though this is dd #2 and I did BW with dd1, I have completely forgotten how to sleep train! 

Do you just put dd in the crib and walk out?  Do you do pat shush?  Or wait for real crying and then pick her up until she's calm?

Congratulations on your hard work 😊

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You're so welcome. I know how hard it was when I was sleep training for naps so I figured reading that this can work for your child is huge encouragement. FYI, DD2 is still putting herself to sleep for naps and bedtime (super easy!) and will sleep anywhere as long as I set up certain conditions. When I started to sleep train, I used the 4S's (except for sitting - I actually walked around with her because sitting just didn't work for us and she got so agitated) and then shush patted for what felt like hours (more like 20 mins). Now I have this routine for naps and bedtime:

I wind her down with some quiet activity (walking around the house in my arms or gentle talking/singing to her) then I tell her it's time to take her nap now. I pick her up and walk up the stairs all the while saying the same line every time: "It's time for your nap now. When you wake up, we'll play again". Once we're in the room, I turn on the sound machine (we keep the curtains drawn and the room dark), get her swaddle ready and put her in the swaddle, all the while singing the same song to her that I do everyday. When I put her down on the swaddle, she actually looks relieved and smiles - almost like, thank goodness you're putting me to sleep: I'm SO tired! :) Once she's swaddled and the song is done, I carry her to the crib and say "It's time to go to sleep now. I'll be here when you wake up". Then I walk out of the room and close the door. Sometimes, if I've missed her sleep window, she'll cry out/protest (but she never really cries anymore) for a max of 5 mins, but she always gets to sleep within a few mins. While we were still working on learning on how to sleep/self-soothe, I would do the same thing as above but after I said it was time to go to sleep, I would shield her eyes with one hand (about 6 inches above her eyes) so she couldn't see me and I would pat with the other hand and shush. When I started, I would shush pat until she fell asleep and wait until she had been asleep for 10-15 mins before leaving the room, but over the course of 2-3 weeks, I started shush patting for shorter and shorter amounts of time (but stay in the room until I was sure she was sleep, just out of her line of sight), and then gradually, I shush patted for a few mins and left the room while she was still awake. Now when I put her down, she is wide awake every time. Hope that helps! Good luck!

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That's great! ;D

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That is such awesome news!!

So at the beginning you place her down then shield her eyes and pat shush for 10-15 minutes after she fell asleep? 

Did it ever take the entire nap time?  Today we did it for first day for  the three daytime naps and she never fell asleep. We did pat shush for about an hour and a half each time then finally Id rock her to sleep so she would at least sleep an hour before starting the next EASY.  The last EASY she was yawning and staring after only 30 minutes A time from not sleeping most of the day. 😕

My dd has reflux too. It wakes her up sometimes. She sleeps well on me tummy to tummy or held horizontally with her tummy facing me. Sleeping on her back is completely different from how she seems most comfortable. You put a wedge behind your dd's back?  I'm worried dd will roll over if I put her on her side.  But i wonder if she'd be more able to sleep instead of her back.


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Yes, I used to shield her eyes while shush-patting her. I always made sure to watch my A times and caught her when she was most drowsy. We used to have a wedge that kept her from rolling over and I put her on her side all the time while she was still swaddled and not close to rolling over yet.

How old is your DD? I'm asking because we had a night nurse help us and she suggested we put DD2 on her belly to sleep (she's rolling over and unswaddled). It worked a charm and it took maybe 3-5 mins of fussing the first time and now, she just sleeps well. I HIGHLY recommend it for infants that are old enough. The tummy sleeping made me nervous at first so I have a baby monitor that I look at constantly and have the volume turned up high (so I can hear her breathing) positioned so I can see her face at all times. Now I'm not so nervous anymore. It definitely helps with her reflux/gas issues. Hope that helps!

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I need to point out here that stomach sleeping is generally advised against under SIDS guidelines. So anyone reading please check the guidelines where you are and make sure you are informed of potential risks.
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