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Help! Am I doing something wrong?!
« on: January 29, 2015, 01:48:28 am »
Just started my sleep training and I want to make sure I'm not doing something wrong before I cause a problem :( Doing the EASY method and LO is almost 4m old but seems to be happy on the 3h schedule at the moment. Main issue seems to be going back to sleep after he wakes from his nap....I've spent from 30min-1h doing pu/pd or just trying to shush/pat and all he does is scream bloody murder the entire time, only calms down after I pick up and pat for a minute but returns to screaming as I put him down.

For some background:
He was very clingy from the start. Would wake up and cry if put in the bassinet even at the hospital. Only way we could get him to sleep 95% of the time was to hold. The other 5% was the swing on occasion he would sleep. We didn't have a schedule for him so he often ended up over tired and we would rock, bounce, pat, nurse him to sleep. If we put him down he would quickly wake and cry so we ended up just rocking him for every nap. We ended up bedsharing because it was the only way we were able to get any sleep, he sleeps ok at night but needs some work but naps come first. This is obviously not something we wanted to continue so now we are working on sleep training.

We have made great progress already on the getting to sleep at the start of nap part of it. He starts nodding off withing 5-10 min of just sitting then lets me lay him down with little to no fussing and falls quickly asleep. I have only ever been able to get him to sleep on his side or belly so we keep a breathing monitor on the crib. Since yesterday we went from napping 15 min at a time up to 45 min at a time so I think he's settling down to the idea of sleeping in the crib.

The problem:
When he wakes up he WILL NOT go back down. He's definitely still tired, probably over tired but will not settle. I try to wait until he starts escalating his crying to go in to him but this seems to happen really quick. I start by trying to just pat him, he normally starts to settle then jerks himself up and starts crying at the top of his lungs. I'll pick him up at this point, he settles and I put him back down. He starts screaming again....this goes on and on if I keep picking him up. If I don't pick him up and just pat him while he's screaming after like 10 min or so he will start to settle then jerk back up and continue screaming. This happens with the first 3 naps of the day every time. I haven't been able to get him back down once. I have been trying to keep at it until the "end" of naptime. Soon as I step away from the crib and open the curtains and turn off the white noise he settles right down then I take him out to the living room to nurse.

Am I doing something wrong with my pu/pd? I feel so terrible for my little boy just screaming for almost an hour and I don't want to keep doing something wrong.

Sorry for the longgggg post. TIA!

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Re: Help! Am I doing something wrong?!
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2015, 03:25:53 am »
Your baby sounds so similar to mine. PU/PD in the traditional sense outlined by Tracy did not work for us and neither did pat/shush in the crib - except for one glorious week. She is a spirited/textbook baby, so it helps to hold her a bit longer than necessary before putting her back down. So we PU, pat/shush etc, slow it down and stop and just hold for longer than you think you should and then PD with a hand on her chest, which we then slowly remove. I think that since she is spirited, she has a hard time shutting down and so she needs that extra time. When I PD, she inevitably cries out but stops with the hand on her chest. If necessary, we pat gently or continue shushing. A dark room also helps.

Reading your post, I also think that it sounds like a slight increase in A times is in order to get past the 45 minute naps. Tracy is spot on about 4 months - it is necessary to move towards a higher A and space out feeds. Not all babies can move to 4 hours immediately, so you could try 3.5 to begin with and then keep adding?
Time to Transition - 3hr, 3.5hr or 4hr EASY
Average A times- BOOKMARK ME!!
Why is it important that my baby gets more than a 45 minute nap?
short naps at 3-4 months? Take it easy, it will get better!
One last thing, 4 months was a really tough time for us with sleep. There is a crazy sleep regression and developmental leap, which made naps especially very hard. I drove myself a bit mental over it. I was so determined not to create any bad habits that I made things harder for myself. The route I follow now is this - I know my LO is an independent sleeper. As long as she goes to sleep for her nap on her own, when it comes to resettling, I try to settle her in her crib for a while and if it doesn't work, I hold her for the rest of the nap. This isn't everyone's cup of tea but at least she is well rested and I can also relax in her dark room.

Another thing that really worked for us with resettling, is to be in the room just before the time she would normally stir (45 mins for you) and put a hand on her and pat her back to sleep. After doing this for a week, we backed off and she slept through it.
How do I address habitual wakings? (wake-to-sleep and other methods)

Hope that was of some help. I really rambled on!






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Re: Help! Am I doing something wrong?!
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2015, 05:39:58 am »
Thanks for all the advice! I was worried about the extended PU because the stuff is so specific about putting down as soon as they stop crying. I've been starting the calm down time as soon as I see the first yawn which tends to be w/in about an hour of feeding. I assume it's just because he's not getting much sleep so he gets tired pretty quick and I didn't want him to end up overtired any more than he already was. Once I start getting consistent naps maybe I'll extend A time and see if that helps.

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Re: Help! Am I doing something wrong?!
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2015, 05:47:38 am »
Around that time, I realized that going in on the first yarn didn't always work. She was definitely sleepy, just not tired enough to do a long nap. So she'd do a quick catnap and be ready to go! Instead I started switching to calm activities, walking around and talking softly, singing etc to keep her awake till naptime.