need advice: Please- tried P.U/P.D- Dosent HELP!

[nesh60]

Hi
I have a 5 month old boy who always had a problem with naps. He wont sleep more than 40 minutes during the day. I have been trying P.U/P.D for close to 3 weeks, he falls asleep in the begining after 20 min, however he wakes up after 40 min- and dosent fall back asleep- i do the technique until his next feeding time.
i tried to pat his back after 30 min in order to try to get him through another sleep cycle- but that dosent work as well-
i am helpless- its been to long- i dont know what to do......
please help!!

[chocho]

I can understand your frustration! We have been on 4hr EASY for 3 months, yet pu/pd doesn't always work with DD.  I finally figurered out that she needs more time to relax before she takes her nap and that seems to stretch her nap time from 45min to 1.5 hr or 2 hr.  More tire she seems longer relaxing time she needs.

[nwmm]

Have you considered the wake to sleep technique instead?  I was not successful w/ pu/pd.  I tried the w2s.  Worked sometimes.  Went back to it.  Has been working a lot better.

[nesh60]

thanks for your responses
my daily routine is:
Wake up at 6:30-7:00 am
E- 7:00
A-7:20
S: I begin wind down at around 8:30'ish and he falls asleep at 8:50- 9:00
however he wakes up at 9:30'ish - i try wake to sleep- but it dosent work and then i try Pu/pd but that failed to...i do this until the next feed at 11 (somtimes i give up at 10:30)

E-11:00
A-11:20
S-12:45-1:00- here he somtimes sleeps a full 2 hrs (not often)

E-3:00
A-3:20
S-4:30-5:00 - catnap (30-40 min)

E- 6:00
A- play a little, bath, wind down
S- 7:30

i give him DF at 10:30 and he usually wakes up only once at night and falls back to sleep.

[nesh60]

hi stacy
I usually put him down at 8:30 in order for him to fall asleep by 9:00- i tried putting him to sleep at 9:00 and he would only fall asleep about 20-30 min later....
regarding the wake to sleep- is that patting his back around 30 min after he falls to sleep? because if so, i have done that and still try doing this- however instead of putting him bacck to sleep it wakes him up...it only worked twice.
thanks

[nesh60]

thanks for your advice
i will try to extend his A time 15-30 min longer than i usually do....hopefully it will work!
we will see in a few days.....
thanks again

[nesh60]

So...it hasnt been working...i tried the wake to sleep but that seems to wake him up completly. I dont know what im doing wrong!
i then try P.u/Pd and after about an hout he falls asleep - which gives him about 20 min to sleep before his next feed.....
i extended his A time by 20 min- so now he is awake for 2 hrs and 20 min before i settle him in the bed.....but still only 30-40 min naps......
any recommendations??