drinking a lot of milk at the end of the night.

[binxyboo]

Thanks Stacy, now I remember her!

You know, I am at the easier end of the spectrum re: sleep etc, but even to me it looks as though the milk in her cup last thing at night is a prop. What is she doing in her crib all that time until 9pm? I would think she should just go to sleep~it sounds a bit bizarre to me that she stays in there for two hours, and then all of a sudden decides she is hungry and needs the 3-5oz of milk. And to be honest, 3 oz of milk is not a lot, so it would not kill her to miss it. It seems to me that she is just soothing herslef to sleep with it, but you would know your dd better than me, only you can really make that judgement.

Do you see this as a problem that you would like to resolve, or is it something you are going to live with?

[legend_018]

I dont see one bit of an issue giving her all the milk she wants with supper and after. As llong as shes been offered food first its fine. 

but isn't it an issue if she's drinking "4oz" bottles after each meal equaling 16 oz and than has a big sippy we'll say Total 10 oz before bed. Now we are up to 26oz which is suppose to be too high. That's without that last 3-5 oz sippy I've been letting her have at 9pm at night.

Thanks!! Everything you said and others make sense!!
I'm sort of trying something today, Not sure if I"m going over board. It's 3:44pm and I haven't giving her the afternoon sippy yet. I gave her some yogurt, which I have many times before in addition to sippy afterwards, which she usually wants pretty badly because for example...last sippy was at 10am and it's 3:45pm now. I let her have a juice pop and she munched on a graham cracker. I'm going to see how she does and see if I can give her supper between 5 and 6:00pm and than her aftersupper sippy. So I'm trying to skip out on the afternoon lunch "after nap" sippy. 

[legend_018]

I don't think today's eating was that bad?? Is this bad for a 15 month old?

6:30am ish - 6 oz jar of oatmeal with pears plus 4 oz sippy

9:45am ish - some pancake and picked on some cantaloup. MAYBE 1/2 of a small pancake. Than 4 oz sippy

NAP NOON TO 2PM. I had put her down about 11:15am for nap. Well she got up at 6:15am.

3:15pm ish - I know getting late, but 4 oz yogurt, graham cracker and juice pop

5:15/5:30pm ish - Eat some of her noodles. One of the only supper things she'll eat. We do let her watch sesame street while eating supper and please believe me when I tell you, this HELPS more than hinders. Picked on some raw brocolli. Something new I've been trying. A small piece of american cheese. ok so I get a little desparate sometimes "lol". I tried mashed potatoes, but she would keeping her mouth shut and wouldn't even barely try it. mannnnn...back to the same ole noodles.

RIGHT AFTER DINNER 5 oz sippy...This was around 6pm ish I believe.
FAIRLY close to bed, kind of right before bed...........BIG 8z sippy.

Total 4+4+5+8 = 21 oz.
In bed now. I did kind of put her down late. It's 8:06pm and I can still hear her making noises and stuff. I put her down about 7:35pm.

Is that a bad day? I didn't think it was that bad.

[legend_018]

8:15pm and she fell asleep. OH What luck. don't forget.. I do have good nights where out of the blue she's fine and doesn't stay up in her crib for 2 hours, playing and/or, trying to fall asleep and eventually getting way too overtired and wanting soothing techniques like a final 3-5 oz sippy cup Every Night!!

It's 8:30pm and I haven't heard a peep so I'm PRETTY sure she's sleeping although not 100% sure.

[binxyboo]

Sounds good!

[taygensmom]

Sounds like she ate better partially because her overall milk intake was less (21 oz compared to about 30 oz). I personally feel that drinking as much as she wants after supper will in fact hinder her appetite during the day. Toddlers can do the same thing that babies can do....you see some babies who eat most of their milk at night, waking frequently, and then very little during the day. They have in essence "switched" their eating schedule from day to night. This can also happen with toddlers. It is important to look at how much milk she is getting in a 24 hour period. Just because she is drinking the majority of her milk in the evening and eating well at breakfast doesn't mean that the milk intake is not affecting the rest of her daytime feeds. She only need so many overall calories per 24 hr period, and if she gets say 70% of these between 6:00 and 9:00 at night, the motivation is much less to eat during the day. JMHO.

As far as the night drink, I would agree that this is a prop and is more used for soothing than out of hunger. It sounds like you are worried that if you do not give it to her she will be up until all hours? That may be the case at first, but if you really want to change this you may have to stick it out for a few weeks, and I bet you will see a big improvement.

[legend_018]

Yesterday, once again I skipped the afternoon 4 oz sippy again  so total was 4+4+5+8/9 which equals 21 oz. Sippy's were offered after meals and/or snacks.
Actually one of the morning sippy's she left 1 or 2 oz.  Actually this morning for some reason she only drank 2 oz.

She did eat a 6oz jar of apples and banannas level 3 baby food. I ONLY give her baby food in the morning.  She also didn't stay up for too long in her crib last night and fell asleep within an hour.  So 2 nights in a row where I didn't have to give her a final 3-5 oz almost 2 hours after putting her in crib. As - I said before, we do have days where things just seem to work out OK. She was sleeping by 8:30pm last night. I wouldn't say she ate DYNOMITE yesterday. But ok I guess. I expected she would of been more hungry at supper time last night and she still was picky and stuff like that.

Now if I could only get her to sleep later than 5:45/6:15am in the morning these days "lol". But that's another topic "lol". 

[legend_018]

It looks like she is eating a little bit better. Sort of I think. Although I'm surprised by her "supper" reaction in the schedule below.

Wake up 6:30am

Breakfast by 7:00am. She can't wait too long. I'm afraid too long will mean "begging" for milk.
6 oz jar of level 3 "granola with cinn. and raison"
plus 4 oz sippy milk.

Mid Morning Snacks. Some pieces of waffle and some watermelon. I think she also had a little cheese.
plus 4 oz sippy milk

Napped from noon to 2pm

4oz Yogurt Cup at around 2:30pm. Tried offering graham cracker snack, but she didn't want it.

Supper? A bit more pickier than I would of expected. Had maybe 1 bite of some peanut butter english muffin, eat a few noodles and than kept throwing them to the floor, picked on some spagetti when my DH and I ate dinner. We had a buttered spagetti side. I do offer her foods we eat at timees. She was getting real whiny and I knew she hadn't had any milk since before the nap so I gave her the sippy. Gave her what I have been doing. 5 oz. I think she only had 3 to 4 oz of it. I tried to make her hold it, but she kept getting real mad and whining because she wouldn't lift it up.

Than an hour later, she acted like she really wanted milk again. I usually give her the BIG 7-9 oz bottle around this time anyways, so gave that to her. She drank down about 5 oz of it. Took a break and than drank the rest of the 3 oz. Not that I like a bunch of breaks trying to get a sippy down. But, I also want to make sure she has enough so she isn't begging for it an hour or two after being in her crib ect.

[binxyboo]

I often read the recipes you post on the board, seems like you enjoy cooking and have a really great, varied menu. Maybe she would enjoy more flavorful foods like you guys eat?

[legend_018]

I really don't get it "lol". Today she had oatmeal at 6:30am, and scrambled eggs and some watermelon at around 10am. She did well, I thought. She had 4oz sippy after each meal. Than after nap "11:30-1:30"...around 2:30 I gave her 4oz yogurt cup. That was it.  I once again skipped out on the afternoon milk. We were at a friends house and she was too busy playing anyways. Come 5:00pm, you'd think she was hungry. She was getting extra whiny too. I do try to feed her what we are eating at times. Timing is very hard though as we sometimes eat on the later side. Tonight we had grilled hotdogs, hamburgers, potatoes and homemade cole slaw. Since I knew she couldn't wait until our dinner was finished- I boiled a hot dog for her. She did eat some of it. That's about it. Gave her favorite noodles, but she threw them on the floor. When we sat down to eat...I tried giving her some potatoes. She kept whining and not wanting anything. Since it was 45 minutes after I had started feeding her. oh and I even gave her some hot dog bread. She barely eat anything again for dinner. But since it has been awhile, I gave her the milk sippy. She really wanted it, but won't hold it on her own. Unless I'm holding her in my lap. I held it somewhat and than I tried to get her to hold it and she threw it on the floor so I left it on the floor "lol" and said forget it than. She drank maybe 3 out of the 5 oz. In an hour, she'll want her big 8 oz sippy of milk for sure!!! So skipping this afternoon 4 oz sippy is suppose to make her hungrier for supper isn't it? 

[legend_018]

I forgot, she did have some bannana this morning as well. oh and when I was giving her the milk sippy when she was whining a lot at dinner, she kept letting go and dropped it once or twice and than was pointing at it whining like she really wanted it, but wanted me to give it to her. She takes her little hands and trys to hold the actual nipple portion of it. It was than that I gave it to her and let her drink about 3 oz. Tried to get her to hold it again, she threw it down "hard" on the floor and that was when I said forget it...your not having anymore.

[legend_018]

Wow, I can't believe how fast I feel like I lose patience when I have a new born coming in August.
Something was wrong with Chayse today. It was very strange. First off - around 4am, she woke up crying hard. I soothed her, but when I went to go put her back in the crib she screamed!!! and started crying. she hasn't woken up in the middle of the night in a LONG!!!! time. I had some water in the room and gave her some of that and tried again. No luck. My DH was walking to the bathroom and I asked if he could hold her while I just get a very small sippy of milk. She didn't want to have anything to do with him and was crying up a storm...so I brought her downstairs with me while I got some milk for her. She drank that down and did good after that. THe only problem is, I went back to bed and I'm not too sure how long she was up for. I thought!!! about an hour later I woke up and heard her playing, but I could of been dreaming. So than she woke up late "7:10am". She did good and had her 6 oz jar of cereal plus 4 oz sippy. Although, I think she only had 2-3 oz of the sippy.  I was going to wait until 10/10:30 ish before giving her the midmorning food session - but around 9am...she was acting real strange. very whiny. She walked up to the counter and was pointing at the apples and whining. So at 9am, I gave her some apple and some english muffin with peanut butter. I wanted to wait before giving her the 2nd sippy of the day. I would prefer that being closer to nap time and she wasn't due to nap soon. I let her down and she was so cranky and whiny and crying at the drop of a pin. I got her to wait until 10am and gave her the 4 oz sippy. she seemed calmer and ok after that. I even sat her down one more time at around 10:30 and gave her some scrambled eggs and watermelon. I just wanted to see what she'd do as she was just so so so so cranky today. She actually ate some of it, but didn't devour it. AT least it calmed her down a little and I let her watch tv while she munched a "little". The whole morning was just very strange. Than it GETS worse. She continued to CRY left and right. It was like NON stop. She wanted everything she couldn't have, she whined and pointed like she wanted to go hang upstairs and than while we were up there...she whined and cried like she wanted to come downstairs. She would cry really hard at times and I kept saying I was sorry and that I didn't know what was wrong. It was to the point where I almost started crying. I tried to put her into the crib for nap time early not knowing what to do. She cried and screamed. She'd here and there get into a good mood and play and stuff, but would eventually just burst out crying about something. Finally close to putting her down again in her crib for nap time - I gave her another 4 oz sippy. she sucked it back and cried a little when I put her in the crib. I left the room and said night night and soon after that she played a little and fell asleep.

OK just venting here. Not necessarily looking for help. You can't have good days every day "lol". 

[legend_018]

Feeding is still decent during the early and mid morning feeding times. It gets worse as the day goes by. Saturday night she slept over nana's. She said she was good and ate well too. She also said she slept well both at night and for her nap.  She even said she ate good for supper. Gave her one of the same noodly things I give her. I think something is wrong with her. After picking her up, she had some yogurt for me, but refused dinner last night. Been cranky as heck. Than last night she also didn't fall asleep until 9:30pm. Keep in mind - nana let her sleep for 2 1/2 hours from 11:45 to 2:15pm. She also woke up around 3:30am and was up for a good hour. I didn't cave in and give her milk though. Today she's cranky, but did eat well for both her morning and mid morning  meals. Typical  6oz jar of food for one meal and scrambled eggs and cantaloup the 2nd meal. Than she wouldn't go down for her nap after waking up at 6:30am on top of being up for an hour or more last night and not going to sleep until 9:30pm "lol". Finally got her down at noon time when I gave in to a 4 oz sippy of milk in DESPERATION!!!