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Need help with 3 week old...
« on: July 26, 2007, 14:45:50 pm »
Hi

You'd think that this being our third child we'd know what to do, but clearly we've forgotten how it all works.  Our ds is 3 weeks old and we're trying to keep him on a 2.5-3 hr. schedule.  We have 2 issues - trying to get him to fall asleep on his own and also when he wakes during the night he seems to be wide awake after his feed and then it takes him a long time to get him back to sleep.  We've tried the pat/shh but that seems to take forever with a lot of screaming.  When are they able to fall asleep on their own? 
And why is he wide awake the minute I put him to bed after feeding him? 
Any help would be very much appreciated. 
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Re: Need help with 3 week old...
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2007, 19:40:20 pm »
Hi Elizabeth

Congrats on baby 3  :D

Couple of things ....

When Ciara was newborn we didn't do any BW or EASY until she was 8 weeks old, so hopefully I'm not giving you the wrong advice!! However, regarding the falling asleep on his own.  Firstly at that age babies can really only be awake for 1 hour at a time without getting overtired so maybe that is a starting point.  I would try to ensure that he is fed, changed, hugged, and wound down, swaddled or whatever and ready to be back asleep by no more than 1 hour after he woke up.  This means that you don't miss the window of tiredness that will occur with his natural sleep pattern.  When DD was young, we couldn't afford to miss this by 10 mins but there would be hell to pay.

Secondly, at this age he won't be able to self soothe probably so you may still be looking to help him fall asleep, whilst doing this as independently as possible.  With DD we would feed, change, swaddle, rock and pat/shh then put into cot when she was REALLY sleep/almost asleep but still just awake and then continue to pat/shh until she was in a deep sleep.  For us the key was to have her sleepy before beginning pat/shh or she just seemed to be upset at begin in cot rather than in our arms.

For the night-time feeds, remember that there is no activity time, so you would do feed and straight back to sleep.  If DS needs changed I would do that before the feed so he is nice and sleepy/sleeping when you put him back down.  You don't want them to learn that there is A time at night  ;)  We also used pat/shh at night to settle DD after a feed. 

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2007, 20:08:54 pm »
Thank you so much for your help!  I think maybe we are missing the window of opportunity, because of the busy household time just seems to fly.  I know he needs to be swaddled but he really fights it and he seems to get quite worked up.  He also seems to take quite a while to settle down - we think he's asleep but will often startle and wake himself back up.  We don't do the A time during the night so I'm not quite sure why he doesn't want to go back to sleep.  Last night he was up from 1:30-3:30 and then was so tired this morning and it was very hard to get any A time with him.  He seems to sleep too well during the day, I just wish we could some how switch things around. 
Anything else you can think of would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Re: Need help with 3 week old...
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2007, 21:29:59 pm »
Hiya Elizabeth,

DD was also a nightmare to get back to sleep at night during the early days! 

For nightwakings we would change her if need be if not then I would leave her.  I would swaddle her up and feed her swaddled and then pat/sh her in my arms before putting her in the cot when she was asleep/almost sleep.  Up until she was about 10 weeks I would put her back down asleep as it was only after this point that we started to teach independent sleep. 

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Re: Need help with 3 week old...
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2007, 05:15:03 am »
ELIZABETH- just wanted to share that I too have a 3 week old and am battling the same exact issue. they seem to fight the swaddle soo much but at the same time can't sleep without it

i'm so afraid to have her fall asleep on my arms as I don't want it to become habit but the screaming when she is in her cot swaddled. its terrible

just wanted to lend support and let you know that at 3 weeks, we are battling the SAME issues
Jaime

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Re: Need help with 3 week old...
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2007, 07:24:34 am »
Hiya again

I would absolutely say not to be terrified to let them sleep in your arms, or have to listen to your babies screaming in the cot  :(

At only 3 weeks old they really need lots of love, food, cuddles and sleep ... IMO you really can concentrate on the sleep training at a later date.  Like I said, I didn't even begin sleep training Ciara until she was 8 weeks, until then she fell asleep in my arms whilst breastfeeding and I would put her down asleep.  Only at 8 weeks did I begin to put her into the cot slightly awake and use pat/shh to settle her. 

What really helped me was to read a post by Theosmom 'How to survive the first 3 months'.  That was 4 years ago, but I am sure it is still in the FAQ's section  :) That gives some really good tips about what you should focus on during this time, and what you really can leave until later. 

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Re: Need help with 3 week old...
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2007, 15:19:19 pm »
Just back from work ... will have a look for those links for you both  :)

How to survive the first 3 months ...

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=1993.0

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Re: Need help with 3 week old...
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2007, 15:20:26 pm »
Pat/Shh for babies under 3 months old

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=26672.0

Hope these help a bit  :) 
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