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hello,my ds is 20 months.he'll only go to sleep with bottle in his mouth-which i know is bad.up average of 6 times for bottle then up for day at 5-6am.he naps well(2 hours) in day but again with bottle.i know i need to get him off bottle in night but how?ive read the books but cant think what method would suit us with his age.im desperate too sleep!!

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Have you visited the props board? (it's for babies but if you read through you may get some ideas)

If something is a prop then he has learnt that the way to sleep is with the bottle and that's the only way he knows how to do it. He wakes so often because when he goes between sleep cycles he rouses out of lighter sleep and needs the bottle to go back into a new sleep cycle. When he is in lighter sleep he wakes because he senses the bottle isn't there.

If there is milk in the bottle not only have you got the problem of the serious risk to his teeth but he's also taking in calories which he's accustomed to getting and he'll need to compensate somehow (if we always had a meal at night we'd be hungry for it too).

I'm not a bottlefeeder but I would first of all try and make sure that it's water in the bottle and not something that will damage his teeth or give him nighttime calories. If you are currently giving milk you could gradually water it down (perhaps while reducing the quantity at the same time so you don't end up with very full nappies) - so over a few days it gradually becomes more water and less milk.

Then you need to get him off the actual bottle (but at least with the comfort he won't be actually hungry) - it's the sucking technique that he probably associates with falling asleep. It's going to be really tough - I can't lie. Because of his age and the long association he needs to relearn how to fall asleep. Have you got someone who can support you because you may not want to do this alone. At his age you could probably go straight to walk in/walk out. So when he goes to sleep change the schedule around so the bottle happens before bathtime and teeth brushing. Then for falling asleep you need a new routine - a song you always sing, books to read, a special cuddle. Bottle is no where to be seen. Not falling asleep with the bottle the first time will help reduce other wakings. Then when he wakes don't have a bottle anywhere - go in and offer comfort and when he's calm, leave (perhaps with a phrase like 'sleep time now'). If he becomes upset and isn't settling - go back in and repeat the phrase but give the minimum of intervention.
You will have a really tough few nights I expect. But it will be worth it in the end. The important thing is that you are not abandoning him. With wi/wo you are there when he is upset and he can trust you are there.

Good Luck.
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Emma gave you excellent advise. The bottle is a prop & you are best to go cold turkey & do wi/wo to teach him/help him learn how to fall asleep without it.

Here is the link to sleep training methods for toddlers - https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63896.0

Let me know if you have any questions before you start

Layla :)



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thankyou!i wasnt expecting such great advice so quickly!the wi/wo does sound good option for us.we go away at weekend so wont start till after that but may water down bottle bit till then ,then try cold turkey.im sure i'll think of a million and one more questions!but thankyou so much.

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Ok, good idea to wait until you come back.... we'll be here ALL the way until he is sleeping soundly though the night!!!!

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thought of something!
his cot is in our room-we have 3 bedroom house but 3 children so hes either got to be with us or with his brother who is 6.which should we go for?his brother sleeps well but goes bed at 8pm.
also would wi/wo work for naps too?

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You could have him in your room & get a divider of some sort.

Could the brother share with the other sibling while you are sleep training & he is in a room on his own?

Yes, wi/wo is for naps as well.

What does his daytime schedule look like? What time is the nap, bedtime, etc...



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I agree for the sleep training you may want to have him in a room of his own if you can.

Good Luck. Let us know how you get on.
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