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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #90 on: February 26, 2008, 23:41:42 pm »
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Thanks for helping with the link Jess!  :-*

Wow, didn't I sound in a bad way during September?  I remember how bad it was though, I thought I would kill her some nights  :'(  She was a tough little cookie to crack, but I am sure that the thread can be an inspiration I really was desperate, but also I had only read Tracy's books briefly, sort of flicked.  Now I have read through them properly the methods come far easier.

You know Mari, I remember your posting that SO WELL because I was a NW mod then and I read that post, no one had responded yet, and I was totally  :o  :o  Then I realized that Alex was over 12 mo so I got to move it to toddler sleep. I have NEVER been that happy to move a post before  :-[  or since! I had no idea where to even begin to try and help you.

So really Mukta, like I said before, if anyone can help you it's Mari!  :-*
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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #91 on: February 27, 2008, 05:20:31 am »
Love the photo Jessica!! Is Colin eating pizza in his jim-jams??!! He even looks guilty ;D

Thanks for the link to your thread Mari - it worked when I clicked on it!
It was soo encouraging to read. And, it was really, really weird to see the name Mari at the top of the posts - you (and Layla) were always "The Oh Great Ones" when I first became a BW and had problems with DS. You both knew EVERYTHING and always seemed so sure and confident with all your advice!!! Nothing like the wreck form your posts!!
But this is exactly why BW is so successful - it's the 'been there, done that, got the t-shirt' approach that truly helps everyone ;)

Mukta, I think, if I were you, when DS has got over his cold and is a bit more himself, I would get rid of the dummy too. I don't think you'll see much improvement in his sleep until you get rid of all the props. Keep diluting the 4am feed if you don't want to go cold turkey with this so eventually it is just water. Only when you have got rid of all the props will the sleep training work. In for a penny, in for a pound - he might as well cry once and get it over with, rather than tackling each problem individually.
But, you can only do this when you have really decided to be committed and consistent - this is the hard bit Mukta - but as I have said, I soo wish I'd done it long ago.
What do the professionals think ?? Girls??  Oh Great Ones??  ;D ;D
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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #92 on: February 27, 2008, 19:34:01 pm »
Hi Ladies,

I agree as soon as the cold is done and teething slowed down will try and rid the paci as well.

Last night was a bit encouraging, DS was up at 3 but manage to put himself back to bed. Was up at 4 had his diluted feed and then slept through to 7:30...the only kicker being that he was so badly clogged up and unhappy that I had to cuddle him and let him sleep with me. It was just the once but he slept well as he shared my pillow and that helped him breathe a bit. Needless to say I didn't sleep with him snoring in my ear...but at least it was an encouraging night.

certainly not doing the co-sleeping tonight!

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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #93 on: February 27, 2008, 20:37:53 pm »
Hi Mukta,
    My little guy is 19 mo old and at 18 mo I decided to cut the night feeds.  I wanted to know he understood that he could have my milk in the morning, that it wasn't forever (I said to him that the milk went to sleep).  I also stopped nursing him to sleep.  It's been a process but he has just started sleeping through most nights.  Part of how I started was that I offered him some water in a sippy cup instead.  Then his dad became the one who woke up in the night when he cried.  Let me know if you want to know more about the whole thing.
    My boy can also be a bit of a picky eater, plus he's allergic to dairy.  I try to give him a good amount of protein (chicken, beef, eggs) so he remain full for longer.  Carbs digest a lot faster.  I also find that changing what I give him a lot helps him stay interested in eating.  Also, La Leche has a book called "My Child Won't Eat"  that's highly recommended.
    Let me know if you would like more info! 

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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #94 on: February 28, 2008, 10:05:43 am »
Hi Carina,

Would love to get some more tips from you, by reading the thread you probably have caught up on what my action plan is for the time being. So all tips and guidance are more than appreciated. BTW big congrats that it worked for you, how long did the sleep training take?

now with my fingers crossed as I don't want to jinx it, but lats night was s relatively good night :D

DS slept at 7:30 (his afternoon nap was late at 4 instead of 3 and only for 45min) and woke up once for a pacifier at 12:30 but then slept right through to 5:30am. :) I gave him proper milk at 5:30, (since it was so close to 6am and no point diluting at 5:30..) and the he went straight back to sleep :D

only problem is he woke up at 6:30 because of the need to poo! but not bad because its one of the rare night I slept for 5 straight hours :D

thank you ladies! I know its too early and i hope I have not jinxed it but for a change wanted to show you how upbeat I am.

Quick question though: do you think the multiple NW could be due to long naps in the day? At presnet he takes 2 naps of 1hr and 15 minutes...but yesterdays pm nap was shorter....just a thought?
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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #95 on: February 28, 2008, 13:00:02 pm »
That's great news  ;D

I think there's a possibility the better night was because of less nap time during the day.  I had wanted to mention it earlier but I read that you don't like to wake him when he's sleeping so I didn't  :P

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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #96 on: February 28, 2008, 13:20:35 pm »
Thanks Kelly, I think I might try and reduce his pm nap to 45 mins and see how that goes. Today his AM nap was 1.5hrs but thats because he woke up bright and early and slept off eralier than normal. So should I try and work with length of each nap or total daytime sleep?

Typical am nap is 10 -11:15 today he slept from 9:30-11. Lets see how the pm goes. btw I don't like to but have to wake up DS if I don't he will continue sleeping and mess up the daily schedule and routine.

But honestly 5 hrs of non-stop sleep have made me a new woman :D
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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #97 on: February 28, 2008, 13:30:36 pm »
But honestly 5 hrs of non-stop sleep have made me a new woman :D

I'm so pleased to hear! 

I think the timings of the naps are important too.  For example, if he was taking one nap in the middle of the day and it lasted for 2-3 hours then this would probably be fine because there would still be a long stretch between wake-up and bedtime.  Personally I find a long nap in the morning followed by a 45 minute nap in the afternoon works well too because they haven't slept too deep for too long close to bedtime.  But this second option goes out the window when they get to the stage of not wanting to take the second nap after a long morning nap, then they're too tired by bedtime which can cause night/early wakings for that reason.  It doesn't sound like you're there yet but when you are it's time to start the transition to one nap!

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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #98 on: February 28, 2008, 13:35:30 pm »
excellent, so now I will cut the pm nap to 45 mins and see if that makes  a difference, and continue with the longer am nap 1hr 15-1hr30 mins till he is ready for the transition...lets hope i get a few weeks to enjoy this before the transitions starts..am already dreading the clock change....
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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #99 on: February 28, 2008, 14:23:06 pm »
The clock change is good - 5am will be 6am so it will do some of the work for you  ;D  It's lovely to see a photo too!
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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #100 on: February 28, 2008, 14:34:37 pm »
thats true..I thought it wa sthe other way round ...now I am even more optimistic.

Yes thought I'd share a picture so everyone could see they devil they are helping me with LOL :D
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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #101 on: February 28, 2008, 18:31:58 pm »
LOVE the pic mukta  :-*
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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #102 on: February 28, 2008, 19:05:21 pm »
Mukta, what times are the naps?  I would advise cutting the am nap and try to lengthen the pm nap really as you don't want him to be overtired at bedtime, this can be a cause for most nightwakings.

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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #103 on: February 28, 2008, 19:16:23 pm »
Thanks Jessica...he looks a lot more innocent than he actually is!

Mari: his normal AS routine is as below
7ish wake up
10 - 11:15 nap 1
3-4:15 nap 2
7:15 asleep

last few days he has been waking up a bit early and when he does that he normally take his first nap at 9:30ish but I still let him sleep till 11/11:15 to make up for his loss of am sleep. pm nap is normally quite on schedule give or take 15 mins.

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Re: how do you define sleeping through the night?
« Reply #104 on: February 29, 2008, 05:16:16 am »
Hi Mukta,
How were things last night?
Love the pic - he's a real sweetie - are you sure you're not making this all up?!!!
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