Need support with 2-1 nap transition, feel lost...

[Aly Mac]

I'm certainly keeping the 2nap day as an emergency now.  I'ts been 5 days and she seems ok, even with a 1hr nap yesterday.  I am keeping a close eye though.  If it's bad again today, thena  2nap day tomorrow.

finding the right balance is hard love, but we'll get there !

[Vicku]

Feeling a bit better about it today, after a good 7 hrs sleep 
We've not done a 2 nap day for 6 days (apart from yesterday's nap which was sort of split in two as she only slept 1/2 hr then awake in cot for an hr, then slept an hr), so looking at it that way, we're not doing too bad I guess...

I know we'll get there, and think you're right Mommaholmes that she needs consistency now to be able to adapt to it. We're now at 11:30 for nap. Will keep it there for a few days and no later than 6/6:30 to bed. Thanks for your input!

Aleesa, hope you've had a good day with L!

[Aly Mac]

so glad you are feeling better Vicku (love the name by the way, really unusual). I think keeping it at 11.30 for a couple of days is a good idea.  do you find weekends she is more tired? or maybe OS with daddy?  I always seem to have the 2nap day eithe ron the weekend or monday to catch up.

Today was ok. we went to Ikea (with another BW mum) - it's a 45min trip away, right at the time that she would have had the first nap on a 2nap day. so she fell asleep the last 10mins of the trip....then of course so excited shopping, well she didn't sleep ont he way home like I thought she would.  didn't when we got home either - lots of playing.  Well at 2.30pm she went down with a little fuss but only 5pats to get her to sleep. woke at 4 relaly upset (dare I say, I think more teeth), so I still put her down at her normal 6.30 for 7 and it's the first time in ages, that I have put her to bed awake and she didn't cry when I left.  it's 20mins later and not a peep.  amazing what going to bed rested does for you.

sorry to highjack your thread Vicku. didn't mean to do that.

[Vicku]

Oh you're not highjacking my thread Aleesa, you're always welcome to write about you and Lilly here. I like it!  Wish we could have come to Ikea with you! There's lots of Ikeas here, as they're swedish, but no BW mums... Lois loves it there! She's got a red rocking-moose from there that she loves playing on at home and a little blue ghost night light. Wonder if they have the same stuff over there as here? Anyway, that's a different subject altogether

I haven't really noticed a difference on weekends with L. The weekend doesn't really vary much from the rest of the week for us though apart from DH being here if he's not away with work. Sorry for being so thick, but I must have missed what OS stands for... can't find it anywhere either, so you're gonna have to tell me 

I'm hoping Lois will recover from OT over next few days as she's not really her usual happy self and also looks really tired. Guess it must just be accumulated OT from all the messing around with this nap switch and EW and NW. Got a separate post on that too to see if I can get some specific advice. Feeling positive about it today though and taking L swimming when she wakes up from her nap. The sun is shining here for the first time in ages! 

[Aly Mac]

So glad the sun is shining - makes you feel better doesn't it?  more positive anyway.  no sun today, a little rain. OS stands for overstimulation...can have from no to a large effect, depending on what temperament your bub is.  so if you have a spirited lo, then you have to be carefull and have low key stuff.  hope that helps.

have fun...oh, L woke at 5.45am...i have to learn to put a pillow over my head and get up to her at 6, so she gets used to it. she's not crying, playing, shaking the cot...shsheeesh!

[Vicku]

Ah, of course overstimulation... Yes, that does happen. DH tends to play those kind of games that wind her up and mornings and evenings aren't the best for that, especially now with this OT. At the moment she just gets very annoyed although she normally likes it. Just shows me she's soo tired 

I think I might have to treat today as an emergency and do 2 naps. Her bedtime was 6:25, she was up NW 10-2 and awake at 6 this am. She was crying and yawning already when having first nappy change, and is not very happy still. Thought I'd put her to bed at 9 for first nap. Am tempted to let her sleep for as long as she needs but also a bit wary that'll throw the rest of the day off too much.
I feel I have to stop this OT in its track somehow as things are getting a bit out of hand 

Hope you're ok! 

[Vicku]

Me again... Well she was soo tired, looked like she was going to sleep in her porridge bowl  still adamant to feed herself with the spoon though (she's been doing this a lot lately) so porridge was going everywhere!

Put her down at 9:05, she went straight to bed and woke up by herself after 45 min. Will try for pm nap about 1ish I think.

Bit worried now as OT getting worse, not better. Don't want to go back to 2 naps too often though. Guess I'll have to try earlier bedtimes again and hope EW doesn't get worse by that this time round. Can't wait til transition is finally over and I can have my happy, good-sleeping girl back!

Just one question, do you go to bed really early to be able to keep up with L's early wake ups or just manage on little sleep? Also, by bedtime do you mean the time you take her to bedroom or time you leave her in bedroom?

[Aly Mac]

I put bedtime as the time I think she falls asleep, as I go into her room and bf her before her sleep, so we go in about 30mins prior to sleep time. I do early to bed if she hasn't had a long nap, or the nap finished early. so I do the 4.5 or 5hrs post wake up is bedtime.  or when I know she is dog tired.  we are doing 2naps today as she was upa t 5am!!!!  I can see on the log that she is waking earlier and earlier the more one naps we do, and the naps get shorter too. so I figure a 2nap day to reset her clock. though we are going out and so I am letting her sleep as long as she wants this morning (thought I would try something different). oh, she's awake now  after 1hr 20mins...will try for a catnap this afternoon....

oh, and I think the 1pm bedtime sounded good after the 9-9.45nap -thats what I normally do and works well most of the time.

[Vicku]

Yeah, I also count bedtime from time she goes to sleep. I meant yourself too though. Do you have early bedtimes these days? I'm just soo tired but finding it hard to wind down and go to bed early even if I feel shattered every am...

She's got a cold 3rd time she's ill since started transition (ear infection at christmas, throat infection a while back and now this cold...) guessing this hasn't helped make it a smooth one. Bed 5:30 last night as v tired, up 6:30 crying til 11 pm nothing would sooth her, then awake again 2:45-3:45 and awake 6:00. Poor little girl, I'm just going with the flow now til she's better from cold, just trying to make sure she gets as much sleep as possible.

Hope you're doing well!

[Aly Mac]

SOrry Vicku - didn't read that right did I!  I find it hard too, because I just want some chill time....normally 10pm is the latest really.  We try to go to bed around 9/9.30.  If I get lots of nw, then definately a 8.30 bedtime......

hope you are all feeling better soon. we had 2 naps today.  I let her sleep as long as she wanted at 9am as we were going out so didn't want to rush home 1h15mins and then an hour at 3.30.  will see how tonight goes - have no idea what time to do bed!!

[Vicku]

I've not been to bed til 11ish lately and then lying there for ages unable to sleep... maybe I'm Ot too I should try aim for 9/9:30 really or I'll wear myself out.

Maybe you'll just have to watch her cues this evening, but I'd do no later than 7 bedtime.

Thanks, I'm sure with plenty of cuddles and love, and hopefully good sleep, she'll be better soon.
Take care, hope you get a good night! Hug!

[MommaHolmes]

I was definitely OT myself after dealing with weeks of Ollie's OT then pregnancy and then having a newborn - no joke!! Used to take me hours to get to sleep.
You need an early bedtime too - it's not just kids that get OT 

[Aly Mac]

I had a nap when L did this afternoon, and I asked dh to pat me to sleep too    He said he wasn't going to rock me though....

She was so good tonight.  we all had dinner together (which just never happens lately with her early to bed), then she happily played low key, just like I wanted,and we went to bed around 7.10, bf and in bed happy with a sleepy smile at 7.30.  hope I haven't pushed it given she woke at 5am, but she did have good naps...       fingers crossed.

[Vicku]

How are naps/sleep going Aleesa?
After nights of EW/NW and fairly short naps, she finally took a long 2 hr nap this afternoon after picking her up from my parents. I put her in bed at 11:30 as I have done on 1 nap days, but at 12 she was still awake talking and whinging in the cot so thought I'd better check on her... done a poo  so changed her and put her back. Was asleep by 12:10 and then slept til 2:13!!! She was awake at 4:30 am this am though and only slept 1 hr at 6:30-7:30, so she must have been exhausted. What I'm not sure of now though is if the extended A time made the difference to the nap length or if it was just a fluke?? DH put her to bed 6:20 this evening while I was at work, thought we'd still give her an early bedtime to catch up on sleep lost last week, but she didn't go to sleep til about 7:20. Again, wonder if it was too short A time or that she just found it hard to go to sleep cos of OT... Well, we'll see what tonight brings...
Are you still having EW?
Hugs!!!

I asked dh to pat me to sleep too    He said he wasn't going to rock me though....

LOL Why not?? 

[Aly Mac]

Another EW here - not as bad, 5am or so.  I left her for a while as I could tell she was trying to get back to sleep.  When I did go in, she was sitting up, and chewing her lovey (maybe a tooth).. then after I fed her, she did a poop.  wakes L up when she does that at night, so who knows!!!!

I don't know about what you are asking love, as I have no idea either !