Support for "Dropping that last nap"

[aisling]

N is self regulating to hit the 12 hour mark. He also likes naps, so I know he will sleep less at night to get one, kwim? So today he woke after 10.5 hours, so I bet he will nap 1.5.  Yesterday he had 11 hours at night and only slept an hour at nap. I am noticing thought with the longer the naps, he wakes up very miserable now, this is very new. Natasha do you find this at all with Catherine?  On Monday he slept 2.5 hours and was just cranky pants when he woke and clingy etc for almost 15 min then snapped out of it. The following day it looked like he was going to refuse the nap and finally fell asleep at 2pm so I woke him at 45 min and he was in a fantastic mood and as well bedtime was a breeze.    

A x

[MommaHolmes]

Hey Rina! At least it's not just me with a LO under 2 who is trying to give up napping but seems only 5 minutes ago we were agonising on the 2-1 support thread
So do you think it's most significant that a) our eldest LOs are almost the same age, b) that they both struggled with the 2-1 transition or c) that there is almost exactly the same age gap between the 1st and 2nd LOs?

We're now on day 6 of no naps (tho believe me I'm trying!) and we're just managing to stay the right side of OT with super early bedtimes - Ollie's usually in bed by 5:30 and asleep by 6/6:30 (takes him a while to settle cos he's so hyper by then) and he's tending to do 12-12.5 hours at night. Can Zara really manage on just 11 hours 

I really want to know if anyone has had any success with getting naps happening again by offering them later, like 2pm??

[rinajack]

LOL, I am guessing the most significant could be c) but then personality definitely plays a part also!

I can get naps if I offer them later like that, but bedtime ends up later than I even like going to bed

[*Natasha*]

Aisling i don't let Catherine nap any longer than 1.5hrs if she sleeps 2hrs then she is up early in the morning. She is also throwing in some 1hr 15mins naps at the moment so i think she will cut it down herself. She still needs it though i am hoping to hold out till she is 3yrs old but we will see.

[aisling]

Thx Natasha.  1.5 hrs today as predicted, but in a fine mood and no probs at bed, but that was 12:30-2:00. 2:00 seems to be our magic number.

[*Natasha*]

Thx Natasha.  1.5 hrs today as predicted, but in a fine mood and no probs at bed, but that was 12:30-2:00. 2:00 seems to be our magic number.

Same for us 

[rinajack]

We went for a drive to the dam today, so Zara how about 30-40 mins at 11ish, til 11:35.  That will be it for the day, but being so early, it should not interfere with bedtime.

Unfortunately a visitor dropped by at bedtime last night, so both kids went to bed later than they should have, but still rose early, so despite no nap yesterday, Zara only had a 10 hour night, so she did need the nap today, at least it wasn't long or late!

[aidenmc]

Wanted to lurk. 

Looks like this could be a clue to our recent (i.e. since October) sleep problems. It is very hard to find the perfect sleep pattern for Aiden who is 31 months. Has never been a big sleeper and lately is up at 5, sometimes before. Seems a nap longer than 1 hr cause late nights, followed by more NWs and extra early mornings. Shorter naps must be followed by very early bedtime or we get more bedtime troubles - trouble falling asleep, requiring help, etc. Longer naps result in all kinds of games and he is in a bed no longer a crib. We have had some no nap days that were followed by decent nights, but it can be hard to get there when he is waking at such an early hour in the morning. May try to limit the nap tomorrow, even if he is up super early and see if that gives us a better night tomorrow night (I think this one is shot).

[Peek-a-boo]

Have just been reading through, and must say, I love BW mums!  I love how well we know our LOs and their sleep needs and totals.  I love how we come up with plans to manage their sleep antics.  I seriously don't know how non-BW mothers survive. 

DS is 26 months and I really thought he was dropping his nap, but we were keeping quiet time in his room.  Now he's napped the last 5 days in row, but I think it's mostly 'cause he's sick.  Anyhow, has made me a big fan of the quiet time route as at least he has the chance to nap if he needs it and, um, yeah, I need my down time.   

[Peek-a-boo]

The bed is going okay.  So far it's just his crib converted to a toddler bed, but soon we're going to a twin bed . . .  a little nervous about that phase, but he's doing great right now. 

Yeah, he was a crib party boy--no toys either.  The first few days that he learned to climb out and after the bed was converted but before he was sick, he got out and played in his room at nap time--no idea, what he did.  I was afraid he'd hop out at bed time rather than playing in the bed, but he hasn't.  I think he's stayed in bed so far at night time--the sounds from the monitor haven't changed, lol, and we haven't found him sleeping on the floor in the morning either.   I think it's partly b/c when he hasn't had a nap he settles to sleep more quickly--no energy to get out to party. 

[brightside]

So Ben woke at 8am this morning  Nice lie in! However, this has had a knock on effect because at 2pm there were no signs of tiredness. I took him up to try for a nap and he refused to even get in the cot. He isn't one for lying there and chatting for ages. If he doesn't want to go to sleep then we have a huge battle and end up sitting with him or doing Wi/wo. He seemed absolutely fine and was tempted to go for no nap but we are out for dinner tonight and didn't want Ben being really grumpy so I decided to take him for a drive instead (AP at its best!  ) He was asleep in about 5 mins. I knew he was tired! Going to let him have 40 mins until 3pm and hope for the best that bedtime won't be too late or that he'll be really grumpy.

[aisling]

Cath, that is what happens for us if he sleeps 7:45 or later (not often loves to get up 7-7:30 so he can squeeze in that nap he loves).  So we just do quiet time (you could do it with him in your bed or something) then do the car ride or the buggy ride for a quick cat nap like you did.

A x

[Mom to M&M]

Sorry - haven't been on in a day or two. Stacy - even on no nap, I can't get DD into bed before 7:45 at the earliest. It's just WAY too hard for us and she refuses too early anyway. But since she's lately sleeping until anywhere between 7:25-8:15 most days, it's been fine. Friday we had no nap. Saturday she napped 1 hour in car and woke cranky - she would have slept longer. She was asleep by 9 last night and slept until 8:25 or so today - not even trying for a nap as she's wired and we have family coming over. She'll have the opportunity to catnap in her stroller around 3 if she wants I guess.

Sometimes I actually like no nap days better - she's often in a better mood that way (go figure), I don't have to worry about waking her up from nap and she goes to bed earlier/easier. Think it will just be day by day for now though. We too need to start bed shopping soon I think.

[swiper]

Rina... Aimee'sthe same some days she wont have nap and will go to bed arond 6.30/7.00 then like today she had a good sleep for about 2hr and she will be in bed around 8.00 ( connor is on break from school atm).

[MommaHolmes]

Managed to get a nap out of him today - first time in 7 days! Put him down 1/2hr later than normal but he was in a right state all morning anyway, meltdown city 

He got about 1.5 hrs, but is now really struggling to get to sleep for the night (surprise surprise!)
Nap was 1:45 - 3:15 (I woke him) and bedtime at 7pm (because he was loopy), he's still not asleep at 8:30pm. On a no-nap day he is usually asleep by 6:30, so he will likely get less sleep overall with a nap.

Should I be thinking about cutting the nap, even when he's not refusing it?