Support for Dropping That Last Nap, Thread #2

[marensmama]

Ya, definitely not what I wanted to hear.  I got the same answer re: how long the terrible 2's last for...

At least she's being funny and cute...  she busted me for eating chocolate, what's that Mommy?  What do I smell?  Are you eating chocolate?  I thought you were going to bed?!  

[marensmama]

They're so cheeky!  See what they drive us mommies to?  I'm almost ready for a bottle of Bailey's now... did I say bottle?  I meant sip. 

[Katet]

Nicole, hate to bare bad news but most people I know find the "trying three's" equally as hard as the terrible two's... just look at the preschool forum talking about 3yo's oh & having been there for the teens... this is just all practice for then LOL
Fortunately we seem to be running smoothly with catnaps of under 45mins or not at all at the moment & that makes it so much easier to get both boys to bed at a decent or early hour. In part the change to winter time really has helped as we need to be inside by 5pm when it starts to get cool, so can go straight to bath & that makes the evening flow so well.

[debo620]

so Noah was asleep about 8:20pm----and then awake in the night a bit---not sure maybe 30/40min..
then slept til 7:30 when I woke him
I am trying to still get a nap about 1pm/1:30---and may give the 1hr nap a shot..

[marensmama]

Maren slept 9:10 - 6:08 (she wakes up at 6:08 almost every day).  If she does nap today, do I let her 'catch up' on what was missed last night, or do I limit it to an hour, say?  I hate to wake her up, she's a like a bear getting woken from hibernation (gets that from me ) with the glazed eyes, dopey brain, and no personality.  It honestly takes her hours to recover.  I guess I need to decide what's worse... crabby bear Maren or goofy window-seat monkey Maren. 

[debo620]

thanks Stacy, sounds like a good plan for today...

he was asking for his lovies at 1pm so I went with that and started nap routine....of course he was crying at the door at 1:20---

the new thing today was to rip his rug and rug pad off of the floor(hardwood) and now they are strewn across the room   

so I've settled him in his bed again and layed with him a minute to just have him relax a bit---said goodnight and left and he is quiet now at 1:35----so plan will be for a 1hr nap or so...

[rinajack]

Wow, Deb, I just realised that you don't have long to go now? How are you feeling?

I think last night Zara was asleep by 9.  She cried a few times in the night, needed her daddy...seems we have the last few days started yet another round of SA from him...not as bad as previously, but still a pain in the neck.  She is so happy around him that she couldn't even fall asleep with him laying with her last night, I had to send him out and do it myself! She didn't want me, she wanted him but I talked her around. Then in the night, she didn't want me (and DH had to go to work early) so the poor guy had to deal with her in the night.

[Peek-a-boo]

AArrrrrggggggh!!!  We've lost the nap and don't know where to find it!

I was with ya'll on the other thread, then shortened DS's night and he was napping daily and life was good.  Now naps have gone spotty again. 

He's so tired right now and needs a nap,  but has been in there partying for 1.5 hours.  I want to stick my head in the room and shout, "GO TO SLEEP ALREADY!" but I'm pretty sure that's not the BW way of handling things and wouldn't do much good anyway. 

Aaaarrrrrrrrghhhhhhh!!!!

:-[Thank you for letting me vent.   

[marensmama]

OK, so do I just accept that a nap is never ever going to happen again unless she's at daycare?  She had a rotten night due to the nap at daycare yesterday, slept 9 hours only... had purple eyes and red cheeks by 8 am today asked to nap on my bed and STILL did not nap.  It was one of those rotten mommy days, and I realize that I'm getting angry with her for not napping which I know is so unfair to her.   

[marensmama]

I try to give her quiet time... I've tried keeping her in her room... she escalates to the point where she'll wake Hayden up unless I intervene.  I've tried having her in my room with me, watching a dvd while I'm on BW, keep reminding her its quiet time, mommy needs quiet time too, etc., but once she's done with that (20 minutes unless she's somehow fallen asleep), she's raring to go all over again.

Today I got so ticked off with her, Hayden was up between 3 and 5 this morning, Maren was up at 6, during Hayden's afternoon nap I was so sure Maren would nap too, she was exhausted.  And I was too!!  Instead of giving in to it, she became loud and unreasonable and when I told her it was quiet time she screamed so loud at me that she woke Hayden up.  I went and resettled Hayden (no easy task anymore, since pat/shh is now irritating to her) and when I went back into my room where Maren was, she was cheeky with me so I told her that was it, we were going downstairs because she wasn't behaving and I didn't want to wake Hayden up so she screamed even louder (but was laughing at the same time, totally infuriating to me)  So I took her downstairs where she continued to scream until Hayden was fully awake... In the meantime, DH is mowing our lawn (during naptime   ) I put her shoes on her, marched her outside and handed her off to daddy.  I'd had it.  Aggravation on top of 4 hours of sleep, and I lost it.  DH sensed I needed away from Maren time, so he had her 'help' with the yard work and then they went and got me a tea at the timmie's drive thru.

Anyways, she tantrummed herself to sleep tonight, completely OT, I'm bagged, I'm gonna head to bed soon.  Don't have the slightest idea what to do besides some form of sedation (JUST KIDDING!!!)  I try putting her down early on the days she has no nap but she parties until even past her normal bedtime.

Any thoughts on how to handle this are much appreciated!!

[debo620]

Rina---I am feeling physically well---huge but doing good. I am finding the most difficult thing is dealing with Noah---don't seem to have much patience--so thank goodness its friday and DH is home. busy spring cleaning of course...

Bethany--can't remember if your son is in a bed now or the crib---what did you end up deciding on? I know that Noah does not fall asleep great for his nap if I just leave him to it....I hope that comes with time...
so I've decided to intervene a bit...if he is overplaying and getting himself more hyper---then I will lay with him just til he is calm and leave---seems when he is relaxed and tired enough but not past the point of tired he falls asleep in the bed fine...so it is a timing thing...

today was ok...
nap 1:35-2:35 or so
windown at 7:45 --left him at 8 and didn't hear from him after that....so we will see..

question for you guys though about tired signs..
Noah was happy all afternoon---but showing those occasional eye rubs and yawns throughout the evening? do you think this is normal?
as in I'm tired at 8---but not usually asleep til 10:30

[Peek-a-boo]

Deb--he's still in a crib, seems to have forgotten that he knows how to climb out (knock on wood).  TBH, if I try to intervene at all he gets hopped up and all hope of sleep is gone, so it's really up to him.  It's nice in a way, but I do sometimes wish we had some AP to fall back on.

I think some yawning is normal, Deb.

marensmama--{{{hugs}}} I have no idea what to do, but I'm so terrified I'm going to be in that exact boat when #2 arrives next month.  Could you run white noise in both of their rooms to try to muffle noises and protect Hayden's sleep?  I've found fans to be the very best for really blocking out noises. 

[rinajack]

We get eyerubbing and yawning here at random times, even after long night and/or long naps.

We have had 45 min naps here for over a week, doesn't seem to matter how long awake before hand.  Must be all she needs.

Luckily, sitting with Zara is still helping, so I am pretty happy about that....the longer I have been doing it for, the better it works....

Those of you with 2 - one sure way that fighting nap won't wake baby is to not have them napping at the same time...yes it is a long day, and no, I didn't do this to myself on purpose, but if there has to be a silver lining?

[debo620]

slept 8-6:50 or so----stayed in room talking to his monkey til 7:15 

[aisling]

1 hr and 40 min hour nap yesterday as my Mum watched him and she didn't have the heart to wake him. Slept 9pm to 7:20am. He loves to do his nap math and = 12!  LOL!