Switch to 1 nap didn't help us what can I do more?

[Serides]

It has been 3 weeks since we switched from 2 to 1 nap. the reason of the switch was due to a recommendation that I got from this web-site.

FIrst of all as usual here is our actual routine

6:30 - 6:45 Wake up (He can also wake up at 6:00)
7:00 bottle of milk
8:30 breakfast
10:30 snack
12:00 lunch
13:00/13:15 - 14:45/15:00 - Most of the time his sleep lasts 1 hour 45 minutes. Before we switched afternoon nap was 1:15 minutes and morning nap 45 minutes
15:30 snack
17:30 dinner
19:30 bottle of milk and sleep

He was used to wake at 6:00 am after the summer time change he woke at 7:00am for a couple of days then woke earlier day by day. In the first days when he was waking at 7:00 am, he was sleeping at 20:00. Since we switched from 3 to 2 naps he is sleeping for 11 hours a night.

I know that the morning A time is too long. But if I put him to nap earlier then afternoon nap has to be longer which is not recommended.

I have to find a solution for the night wakings which is happening either once or twice a night. However I can't say that we didn't have straight nights during this 3 weeks. There had been 4 nights with straight sleep which was a good rest for us

In addition I wonder if the nap time is ok. He is not fussy in his A time especially in the morning. They are going to the playground with his nanny in order to make him tired and have a longet nap.

The last but not the least how can I push his waking towards 8:00 am.

[Mama2boys]

hi,

I am marking my spot, as our scheudle is exactly like yours and we also have NW. DS refuses an earlier nap time or later wake-up time.

Mukta

[Serides]

one point that I forgot. From time to time we can be in the car around 10:00 and he falls asleep for 10 minutes. Then he can have his afternoon nap at the same time and we are ahving better nights. However if we try to put him for 10 minutes morning nap then he pushes his afternoon nap to 14:30 which is very late

[Serides]

any advice from anyone?

[Layla]

I am sorry you've had no responses yet.

Can you tell me what he's like when he wakes at night? Could he be teething perhaps and is waking out of pain? Do you help him get back to sleep in anyway?

I know that the morning A time is too long. But if I put him to nap earlier then afternoon nap has to be longer which is not recommended.

I am sorry but I don't really understand this... does he take a longer nap when you put him down earlier? Why is a long nap not recommended?

Layla

[Serides]

he is not teething at the moment when he is in pain he cries differently. he sometimes wake as happy and plays in his crib and sometimes sees us and want to come to our arms.

in the sentence you refered to i write a wrong noun. please find the correct statement below


morning A time is long as it is approx 6 hours or more. if i put him to afternoon nap earlier to keep morning A time shorter as 5 hours then the afternoon nap is being more than 5 hours which is not recommended.

[Layla]

I am a bit puzzled... his schedule seems ok to me. The A time is a little long in the morning and you could try to put him down 30mins earlier, so that he is sleeping from 12.30-2 and bedtime is around 7-7.30pm. If that causes even earlier wake up time (like 6-6.30am) then he's probably had enough sleep for the night.

With the nightwakings.. if he's waking up and he's happy then I would just let him be. Is he in the same room as you? My dd did the same thing at one stage as well... she was up for 2hrs some nights and I wouldn't go to her unless she cried out for me.

With the wake up time... if 11hrs is what he's doing at night (the av), then for an 8am start, bedtime needs to be around 8.30-9pm. So in that case you need to push the nap out to 1.30pm, he'll wake at 3pm and bedtime can be as late as 8ish pm.

So you could try pushing the A time even more... just watch out for overtiredness and if you have to, go back to the old nap time for a day as he's adjusting.

If he does infact wake up as early as 6am, then naptime is a little too late and its probably better to do an earlier naptime & bedtime (so around 7pm).

hth a little
Layla

[Serides]

He is sleeping in his room since 6 months olds.

I tried something else in the weekend. I put him for a morning nap which is not more than 30 minutes and then around 13:30 - 13:45 afternoon nap which he didn't sleep more than 1 hour 15 minutes. And then we had two straight night. However I don't want to go back to two naps. It is really destroying any plans that we can make in the afternoon as he is so sensitive about his sleep environment.

what is the average total time for night sleep and for the nape

[deckchariot]

my dd has been working on the 2 to 1 transition for 3 mos now, and we still go back and forth between days with 1 nap and days with 2.  I've found that if she has 1 or 2 days with 2 naps a week, that seems to help with her NWs.  I'm hearing from other moms with lo's my age, that it's pretty normal to go back and forth between 1 and 2 naps for awhile.  With my dd, if she has a really bad night, then I do a 2 nap day the next day, and that seems to help her out.

[Layla]

The av is about 13hrs. 11hrs at night and around 2hrs during the day.