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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2008, 00:31:28 am »
Here's an update on how it went today. I held the paci in his mouth in the crib for first nap and then took it out once I noticed he wasn't sucking as much. This didn't take but a minute or two. He slept for 2 hours without waking.
Second nap did the same thing and he slept for 1 1/2 hours.
He did not take a 3rd nap - put him down, but he would not go to sleep. After about 10 minutes I just figured it would be better just to keep him up than to have him take too much daytime sleep since we should be weaning the 3 nap anyway.
Now tonight I got him to sleep the same way, but what do I do when he wakes up? Do I give him the paci and then take it out again or try to not give him the paci?

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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2008, 01:41:54 am »
that's great!!   ;D  remember if he doesn't have a 3rd nap to put him down earlier for bed...

tonight if he wakes and doesn't get the paci he will probably cry, which isn't a problem really you could just do pu/pd, but if you'd rather avoid the crying then you should probably do what you did for naps.  give it to him to calm him down and put him in the crib and then take it out before he is fully asleep.
   

   


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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2008, 02:30:14 am »
He has been in bed for 2 1/2 hours now and just woke up for the 3rd time. I have not put paci in yet. I have just put my hand on his back and he is instantly quiet and will squirm for a bit before settling back down. I wish he would stay asleep for at least a few hours though - this may get exhausting! I guess I will keep trying not to use paci unless he continues to cry after my intervention. Wish me luck. i have a feeling I will be very tired tomorrow!

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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2008, 03:22:53 am »
Yay! That's wonderful! good naps, and stays asleep without the paci all the nap time. I'm excited to hear that he's settling back down again just from you putting your hand on his back...that's a MUCH better option than PU/PD which makes them cry more (so I've read). You may be tired tomorrow, but, I'll bet it won't take too many nights of using your hand on his back w/o his paci before he catches on & can put himself back to sleep without it. He's learning! Good job!  ;D
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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2008, 04:26:05 am »
pu/pd is always only to be used as a last resort.  you're supposed to try to comfort in the crib by putting hand on their back or rubbing their back or stroking head or shhhing whatever works first and then only do pu/pd if that escalates...so i think you're on the right track.

sounds like you're doing great.  keep it up.  hopefully you won't have too bad of a night tonight.  :) :)

if you are going to wean the paci really stick with it, it may take you a bit longer because you tried once before and gave it back to him...he may try to hold out.  stay strong, it'll be so much better when he can self soothe!
   

   


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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2008, 12:43:21 pm »
Okay, last night - not so good....he was up about 4 times in his first 2 1/2 hours being down. Then he did sleep a 4 hour stretch, but once he woke from that he was up for for about 3 1/2 hours on and off. Then I got him down again for about 2 hours. Now he is up at regular morning time. What do I do about naps today? I have a feeling he will try to take a long morning nap to make up for his lost sleep. Do I cut him off at 2 hours? Also, how early should his new bedtime be? This is the nap routine he seems to like if he is only taking 2 - 9am-11am and then 1pm - 3 pm. His usual bedtime with 3 naps was 7pm. What should it be now? Should I try to extend afternoon activity time so he naps at 2 instead of 1? I guess I am just not sure how long he should be up before napping at this age. He usually seems to be tired after 2 hours, but maybe I should hold out longer?

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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2008, 14:59:37 pm »
good job on last night, it will get easier!

to really do well on only 2 naps his A time needs to be closer to 3 hours to keep your 7 pm bedtime.  but since he's not ready for that you need to slowly stretch his A time out by 10 min every few days...it may be another month before he can do 3 hours of A  time ( i know, transition of naps is hard  :P ). 

so i would start by trying 2.25 hours of A time before the naps and a bedtime of no more than 3 hours after he gets up from his last nap.

7 awake
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1:30-3:30 sleep
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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2008, 15:07:28 pm »
oh, and if one of his naps are short you would do a third nap.  we did sometimes 2 naps and sometimes 3 for about a month until she was consistently on just 2.
   

   


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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2008, 15:10:24 pm »
If he goes down at 6 will he get up earlier?
Also, another dilemma. When he woke up after his 4 hour stretch last night he was not having any of the hand on back. I actuallyhad to pick him up to calm him. I tried to put him down still awake, but I am not sure if he was...too dark to tell. Now he is in his first nap of the day and he woke after 45 minutes. I went in and tried hand on back and he wasn't having it. I picked him up and he settled after a minute or so. I am so worried that I am going to become a prop now. We just mastered the falling asleep in his crib on his own thing and I am so afraid to ruin it!!

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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2008, 16:31:22 pm »
earlier to bed doesn't necessarily mean earlier up.  but for us putting to bed OT always meant many NWs.

the way to not become a prop is to not comfort past the need.  if you pick him up, as soon as he stops crying you put him back down again.  you don't have to do the pick up put down, you can just give him the paci and take it when he stops sucking or before he falls asleep, as per the gentle removal plan.  and then give it less and less until eventually you don't give it at all.

but if you decide to go without and want to do pu/pd when you pick up you don't rock or anything, just hold horizontally and talk to him and then you must put him down as soon as he stops crying.  otherwise you will become a prop.  also, you always try to comfort in the crib first, and only pick up if he's really crying hard.  if when you pick up he arches against you, put him back down, as that's his way of trying to settle...and never pick up when he's mantra crying, as that's also settling behavior. 

have you read the sleep interview with tracy over on the FAQ on the pu/pd board?  it's very helpful to explain the techniques.

it will work, it did for us.  but for us it had a lot of crying, but only for 2 nights and then we were good.  and it's so much nicer for them to be able to go to sleep and stay asleep by themselves!

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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2008, 09:38:47 am »
When Lucie cut down her cat nap I didn't put her to bed earlier I introduced a new bedtime low key activity 'reading a book in her nursery' 'a puppet show' 'a baby massage', she liked it. But I also learned to let her cry when she woke up from her night time sleep because it wasn't a proper cry, it was a paused crying, kind of muttering cry, it took two days and then she slept through. I think it was all about her learning to get herself to sleep.
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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2008, 14:54:29 pm »
i definitely agree with lucie - you need to listen to his cries before you go in.  if he's really crying for sure go right in, but sometimes they do start stop crying, or mantra crying.  my LO did a cough cough kind of cry.  once i stopped rushing in for these noises things got a lot better.
   

   


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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2008, 01:18:08 am »
We are not doing paci removal anymore right now. His top 4 teeth are coming in and he has been in a lot of pain so I don't want to put him through anything too stressful. Anyway, his nighttime sleep has gotten better on its own though. Now he on the 2 nap schedule and going to bed a little earlier and I think this made the difference. He does get up at 2 every night though and he is up for an hour or two on and off again. Last night I tried to go in at 1 and wake him so he wouldn't wake at 2, but he still did. Maybe I didn't wake him enough. i'll try it again tonight. Has anyone used that method before? I thought Tracy said if you go in an hour before you can break their wake up habit.

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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2008, 02:56:51 am »
aww poor little man, maybe teeth was your problem all along?

i never tried w2s for nights, only naps and it never really worked for me.

have you read the chapter in her book on w2s?
   

   


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Re: How much daytime sleep for a 6 month old?
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2008, 12:44:19 pm »
I read the W2S chapter a million times and had tried it for naps before and it never worked for me either. I was thinking that maybe there was a special trick someone knew :)
Although I am wondering if the teeth have been the problem all along. Good news is he has been doing so much better at night that I no longer have to bring him to the bed with us!! (of course now our cat thinks he should sleep in between us just like Rugby did so we have to deal with him now, lol) Last night was great - he was down at 6:30 and up at 7am! I had to go in about 4 times throughout the night to just pat and replace the paci, but spent maybe a minute in his room each time and then left so he didn't need me much at all. As of this morning his two top left teeth have broken through and the top right ones are just about there.
I think the advice you gave me about switching him to 2 naps and an earlier bedtime have really helped - THANK YOU!!! I am sure now that I was putting him to bed OT and that is why he was waking in the early evening and then the 2 am thing I think was teeth. He is such a sweet boy and has been doing so great with the changes! Hopefully once the teeth are out things will get even better. I can already tell that he is happier this morning with all the sleep he has gotten.