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11 wks and wont nap in the day!!! AT ALL ...help !!
« on: August 02, 2008, 15:51:51 pm »
Hi
Until recently we have had little trouble with our LO, other than reflux which we are medicating, he would sleep after around 45min of activity and eat every 3 hours like clockwork. However for the last 4 days or so he just wont nap. I start the day off at 6 and he feeds, then he is happy and plays, at the first yawn I start to wind him down and I gently rock him to put him in his cot when he is drowsy, however as he nods off he jolts awake and starts crying. no shushing or patting helps until I have picked him up and held him and so the cycle continues. no napping ensues.
by 1pm he is exhausted, and as I am trying to feed him at the right times but after so many hours of no sleep he doesnt know if he is coming or going and wont eat properly either, he just cries.
by the time bath time rolls around he enjoys the bath, (as he does with being changed) but as soon as it is over he starts up again. still having had no sleep.
finally he crashes at 8.30 or so.  Sleeps with a wake up at 12 and at 3. - I am trying to dreamfeed but he is in a deep sleep and doesn't always take it.
I spend my entire day trying to facilitate sleep, shushing and patting, he hates being swaddled, its a really low-key household and not all that stimulating. So what can I do?

Please help, my baby looks like he has been up all night drinking. :'(

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Re: 11 wks and wont nap in the day!!! AT ALL ...help !!
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2008, 16:01:36 pm »
Aw, poor baby and poor mama!

The good news is your baby is very 'advanced' because he appears to be going through the 12 week sleep change at 11 weeks!  ;) Maybe you'll get lots of other fun advancements like early teeth!  :P

12 weeks it is VERY common (almost universal) to kids go thru a sleep change of some kind.  It typically starts with short napping, with jolting like you're talking about.  Most kids will get a good 15-30 minutes of sleep before the jolt, but some are more sensitive.  The reason is your baby is growing up! He now is getting sleep patterns that are more typical of what he will have throughout childhood with regards to REM/non-REM sleep.  So instead of dropping into a deep sleep immediately, he goes into a ligter sleep and transitions into deep sleep after about 30-45 minutes.  The jolting you see is him trying to make that sleep transition and failing; because he's not used to having to do that, it's confusing him and waking him up.

The best technique for getting them thru this is to hold them down thru the jolts so that they can get over that hump and continue their sleep cycle without incident.  For most moms, I recommend going back into their baby's room about 5 minutes before their child typically wakes up; that way you are there to see the jolts begin.  In your case, you probably shouldn't even leave the room! If the jolting starts almost immeditely what you need to do is apply gentle pressure to arms and legs.  Your baby might still start jolting but you are going to apply some pressure so baby isn't flailing.  You may feel like you're wressling an octopus, but that just means you're doing it right!  ;)  The first time it may not work.  But you'll see with each nap period that you're able to help your baby get a little more sleep.  As that happens, the OT cycle will begin to lift and that will also help the jolting (they also jolt when OT! ugh).

I find that about 3 days of doing this for naps is all you need.  I worried that *I* was going to become a prop and would need to do this for the rest of his life! I had pictures of me holding him down while his wife slept next to him in bed.  But, for some reason once you help them over that transition, they sort of figure out how to do it on their own.  I was completely amazed the first time I went up to hold my son down, and all he did was roll around a bit, opened his eyes and then feel right back to sleep! Yippee! Your son will do the same.  But be ready for 3 days fo being RIGHT there at the jolting phase.  Since your child is jolting so soon, you may have to do TWO holding periods: Once initially, and again at 30-45 minutes later.  Just watch his entire nap a time or two and see where and when he jolts.

Good luck! This is TOTALLY normal! And every baby gets thru it.  If you can fix this problem now, you'll be giving yourself such wonderful naps for the rest of his childhood!
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Re: 11 wks and wont nap in the day!!! AT ALL ...help !!
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 16:33:05 pm »
i'm struggling w/similar things in my 12 week old daughter.  she is still swaddled but i sometimes wonder if she likes/needs it.  do you still ned to hold them through the jolts when they're swaddled?  
she struggles w/waking at the 30/45 min mark.  she's also in a growth spurt.  wondering if that's part of it.
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Re: 11 wks and wont nap in the day!!! AT ALL ...help !!
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 20:19:17 pm »
It's just a normal/natural 12 week think.  Growth spurt makes them sleepier, probably doesn't affect the jolting.

My son was swaddled until 7 months, and I still did the method I suggested above: just put gentle pressure on his legs/arms.  Obviously, they are covered by the swaddle so I just put my hands over the areas where his arms/legs are under the swaddle. Still works! And lots of babies need the swaddle beyond the 3rd month.  I think swaddling until after 5 months is very common around here!
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Re: 11 wks and wont nap in the day!!! AT ALL ...help !!
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2008, 08:40:55 am »
Thank you, I shall try that.