clock times/A times to get over OT?

[skatty]

Becky I like the sound of that book, Leorah suffers with teeth, OT and OS, she also gets irritated by certain clothes and hates hats, hoods and gloves but "sensitive" just isn't a word that gets used to descibe her because in the common sense she jsut isn't sensitive at all, KWIM? I am going to see if the library has it.

How was the nap and your night JCsmom?

[Bryony]

How is it going?

Becky that book sounds interesting - can you remember the author?  Katie is not sensivitve in what I would usually interpret it to mean - she's very easy going during the day. But her sleep is very sensitive to ANYTHING - OT, UT, teeth, a slight change in routine...  so maybe I would find this book useful to read.

But over time the naps got earlier and earlier and bedtime too until we went from a 6:30/7 wake with a 12 pm nap and a 7/7:30 bedtime to a whole hour+ earlier.

Yes this is exactly what has happened to us as a result of trying to get on top of OT etc.  I am dreading the clocks change in 6 weeks time!!

xx

[jcsmom]

If sensitive means that he gets OT/OS easily, hates tags, loud noises etc. teethes poorly and is the loudest child wherever we go, then yes he is for sure sensitive!I am very interested in reading that book. I did read one called something like Raising your Spirited Child and it described JC to a T!

Yesterday's nap was 1 hour 5 mins and I extended it another 40 mins. He fell asleep at about 7:40 and woke this am with no NWs at 6:45am  A miracle. Today is a daycare day so I think making it to 12:30 shouldn't be a problem. Here's hoping for a nice long nap there so we can get into a nice routine again.

Bryony-I am dreading the time change too. That is what got us into this mess in the first place. Right after the change he began to refuse his pm nap. But he did sleep later for a while. This time I am just going to do what I am doing now and go about my day by the clock in hope that this later wake/bedtime sticks. I have been getting up at 5-6am since pretty much the day he was born. I deserve a lie in right?

[Bryony]

Yesterday's nap was 1 hour 5 mins and I extended it another 40 mins. He fell asleep at about 7:40 and woke this am with no NWs at 6:45am  A miracle. Today is a daycare day so I think making it to 12:30 shouldn't be a problem. Here's hoping for a nice long nap there so we can get into a nice routine again.

Wow that sounds fantastic!  Well done you and JS!  Fingers crossed for today for you.

We had NW from 11-1:30am and then up for the day at 5am. And oh boy I hear her now after only a short nap. aiggh!!  She is cutting another tooth so this has messed things up even more

xx

[becky1969]

Yep. That sounds like a sensitive child, alright! You might really enjoy the book! She has common problems and strategies for every age group from brith to teenagers.

WTG! That sounds like awesome progress! I think you're getting out of your loooong OT cycle!  Hopefully at this point any blips that happen will be short-lived instead of just making the spiral worse.  Progress!!!

[newmama12]

Ok, so here's something that is puzzling to me. Maybe one of you ladies knows the answer. Why is it that when she has 5-5.5 hours of A time before nap she falls almost always is asleep within 10 minutes of me putting her in bed? But when it's time for bedtime she goes 5-5.5 hours of A time and it takes her 35 minutes (on average) to settle and fall asleep?

BTW: How long before bedtime you feed your lo's dinner? My dh thinks that we feed her dinner too close to bedtime and that's why she's not settling. Although, she gets lunch within 30 minutes of nap and it's not an issue. Currently I feed her dinner around 6pm then bath around 6:30 and in bed 6:45-7pm. Dinner really seems to energize her so I'm wondering if I should feed her around 5:30 instead.

[becky1969]

newmama -- some kids need LESS A time between nap and bedtime than they do in the AM.  If you think about it, it sort of makes sense: in the AM, they have a full night's sleep to keep them going until nap; after nap, they've only got 1.5-2 hours to keep them going.

My son does 5 hours A in the AM, 4.5 hours A in the PM (and I have to have him in his crib no later than 4.25 or I'm doomed!  ).  It took me awhile to figure that out, so we had some sleep disruptions right after he turned 2.  Once I started putting him to bed 30 minutes earlier things went super well! Now, I tell him night-night, leave the room and never hear a peep out of him.    He used to chat and play for 30 minutes or more!

[Bryony]

Wow Becky so how long does he nap and sleep for at night?  I know Katie would do best with those A times but she only ever sleeps 11hrs at night (and that's on a good night when she's not OT!) and about 1.5hrs nap so she has to go a lot longer than that otherwise her bedtime moves earlier by an hour each day!!

[becky1969]

I have a sleepy bub.    Right now he's doing 12 hour nights, 2 hour naps.  But he just came out of a phase where he was doing 13 hour nights (with me waking him!!) and 2 hour naps.

He's always needed more sleep than the average, though.  He had reflux as a baby, so we had tons of NWs.  Once he turned 1, tho, his night sleep became a solid 12-13 hours.

Have you tried pushing nap a little later? That's what worked for us. He now naps 2-4, and so that usually means in bed around 8, asleep by 8:30.  Then he wakes 8:30-9 in the morning.  Great for me, because I work at home while he sleeps! I get up at 6, exercise and still have 2 hours to work before he wakes up.  Never thought it would work out so well -- with the reflux, that first year was a BEAR! 

[jcsmom]

We had NW from 11-1:30am and then up for the day at 5am. And oh boy I hear her now after only a short nap. aiggh!!  She is cutting another tooth so this has messed things up even more

Yikes, those loooong NWs make for even longer days. We just got 2 eye teeth through so that would explain a lot here and I am certain the other 2 are well on their way.
We had a 35 min nap at the childminders today. Boooooooo. Do I stick to my plan of set bedtime? Will this only make things worse?

I'm like Bryony where my bub would do great on those A times but doesn't have enough sleep in him to do so. Never has. Shame as he certainly needs it. Wish me luck tonight.

[becky1969]

I think we're on clock times now.  That's a huge bummer that the nap was so short today.   Did he fall asleep in the car on the way to CM?

[jcsmom]

Nope, no other sleep today as I dropped him off at 8am. I did hold off bedtime until 7:30 just to stick to it and got a looooong NW from 12-2 or later I am not sure I was soooo tired. Up for the day at 7:05 am. He has cut his top 2 eye teeth, and they are so swollen over that you can't actually see the teeth. The bottom 2 are right there too.
I am going to really stick to this for a few more days. It is hard to see how tired it is but I really have a feeling this may work in a few days time. I have tried everything else so it had better work!

[becky1969]

I think a lot of your problems will clear up once those teeth are through.  When you've got a kid sensitive to teething there's just not a lot you can do beside wait it out.  That's good news that they are getting close, though.  I feel for you, I really do, because we had some awful awful sleep issues everytime my son got teeth in the first 2 years of his life.  The 2 year molars haven't been nearly as bad as those stupid eye teeth! Those things are MURDER!

Stick with your plan, and one way or another I have a feeling next weekend you'll be seeing some real progress. ((((hugs)))))

[jcsmom]

I thought I was totally imagining the eye teeth to be murder. I keep saying to myself, "they can't be that bad, can they?". Apparently they can.....and are as of right now. My poor little man.
Good news, we got a nice OT nap of 1 hour 15 but better than 35 mins. Asleep by 7:31pm. I too have good feelings that this will soon pass and that we are on our way back. Please oh please let that be true!

Thanks for the HUGS!

[Bryony]

fingers crossed for you!

xx