I am so desperate, can someone help me?

[RACHPEM]

We tried at 6.15 but would not settle until 7.15, it is always hard on a Tues and fri as i work and my mil has her and she is nanny obssessed and gets worked up when nanny leaves.  That said you will not believe this but she slept til 7.34!!!! My hubby and i take it in turns to get up with maya at the wkend I am so glad i picked today lol.
have a good day
Rachael x

[lesorl]

YAY for Maya!  That's fantastic!  Were you up at 5am today, waiting for her to wake up?

[Vicku]

Hi Rachael!
I'm just catching up on the latest on your thread... Been very busy on the NW board.
Great to hear of that late morning wake up! Hope you actually slept for it How are things going now? Still good?
xxxxx Vicku

[RACHPEM]

Hi Vicku, thaks for still thinking of me.  Things have been pretty good tbh although I am wary about saying it incase it goes wrong.  We were out at the wkend so Maya did not get much sleep nap wise as she was busy playing with her cousins plus she had a late nt on sat, but she took 2 cat naps on the sun, bed early and up at 6am.  Napped for 2.5 hrs on monday and bed at 7pm, tues awake at 6am , yesterday she only napped 1.5 so i put her to bed at 6.40 and she slept til 6.20 this morning.  I am trying to aim for a 12pm nap and bed at 6.30 or 7 depending on how long nap is that said we were in town today and she fell asleep in her pram at 11.20 and I actually got her home and in bed without waking her and she is still asleep nearly 1hr 30 after that is really a first!!!

[NiknLily]

I'm crossing my fingers here Rachel, thats fantastic news, long may it continue :-)

[bethanys mummy]

fingers crossed here too.................... E x

[nike]

We've all been hit with the gastro bug here, hence the reason for my absence   But what great news to come back to!  Great naps and long overnighters WOO HOO!  Rachael, I know you often second-guess yourself but you're doing really well with working out nap and bedtimes, esp to counter things such as the occasional outings and late nights that can otherwise muck everything up.  In such a sleep-sensitive little girl, you know now that an earlier bedtime is the key if she has a late night or shorter nap the day before.  The key is to not let it get on top of her/you again, to the extent that she's just so OT that you go back to those old days

WELL DONE!

[jcsmom]

Wooohooo! Anti BW jinx!
I am so excited for you that this is all finally coming together for you after sooooo many months! Everything is crossed for you 

[Vicku]

Sounds like things are finally settling. Yaaay! My fingers are crossed that this continue for you! Now it's us having NWs again No idea why, maybe bad dreams as she's crying but settles as soon as I go to her. Her molars are still not through, so could be those too, who knows?
Big hugs to you and Maya for sticking it out for so long. Your hard work has paid off

[RACHPEM]

Ok, I knew I would jinx myself by posting our success! back to 4.30 wake up this morning with no sign of going back to sleep.  Maya took a 2hr nap yesterday and I aimed for a 6.30 bed still alhtough she did not fall asleep til 7pm which has been pretty typical, so why the early start again?  Has she caught up on sleep now and 12hrs is all she needs or has she somehow got OT again? I have been really consistent and she has been nappiing really well so i really cant see how it can be the latter. I really thought we had it "fixed"
Rachael x

[Vicku]

Don't despair honey, there's always set backs and the odd bad days/nights. We never get more than 12 hrs here now, but glad to be getting it at the 'right' times for me... well mostly I'm not sure if it's Ot or UT for her now, but OT does seem quite unlikely given that she's slept so well recently. Well Lois woke up with a cold and temperature this morning, so that explains the wake ups last few nights I guess.
Hope it was just a little blip for Maya and she'll be back to later wake ups again. Regression is common after a while of things being better, but often stabilises again. Hugs!!!

[NiknLily]

I second that, do a super early bedtime tonight to make sure it doesn't spiral and hopefully things will settle again.  You have always suspected that she doesn't need as much sleep as is average for her age, try to aim for a routine that is somewhere in the middle of the min required sleep and the max required sleep and see what happens.  BUT only after you make sure this early morning gets sorted first.

You are getting there honey, honestly you are :-)

[RACHPEM]

Well, third day of back to early wakings! 4.45, 5am and another 5am.  I really thought we had nailed it this time. Oh well, back to the drawing board.

[NiknLily]

OH bugger!!

Have you been doing super early bedtimes? I still think she needs to be going to bed by 5.30pm max preferably 5pm when she wakes up so early, otherwise she just isn't getting the chance to catch up.

Her clock really does seem set to 5am for some reason.  Have you ever set her day by the clock running from 5am-5/5.30pm? then shift it 10mins a day.  When Lily woke at 5am for a long stretch after going onto 1 nap I moved her day back to where she was naturally starting it then shifted it forward myself. Just a thought.

[RACHPEM]

Hi Nik, thanks for helping again.  We have been doing early bedtimes but not as early as you suggest so maybe that is what we need to do.  We do have quite a lot going on leading up to xmas plus we are going away on 17 dec so no doubt everything will be completly ballsed up anyway and we have a time difference to contend with, I really am a glutten for punishment ! anyway I think we will prob just muddle through until after we come back as it will all be undone then anyway and she does have a history of sleeping super well on holiday so heres counting down to that.  I will prob still have a moan on here though until I can get serious again.
love to you both xxx