I am so desperate, can someone help me?

[bethanys mummy]

Hi

quick reply. Its good about the going back to sleep thing still - how are you doing it WIWO? as if so then the message should sink in soon...

Give w2s some thought, you dont have to have a precise wake up. B used to sleep about 10 hrs so I went in at 9 hours, but sometimes she would have done 9.5-10.5 and it still often worked

Maybe bedtime a touch earlier, say 1/2 hr, but just keep things calm beforehand and no huge activity this afternoon (probably raining anyway!!)

E x

[RACHPEM]

I am just a little concerned with doing an earlier b/time incase she wakes even earlier, it is not every morning she will drop back off. I also thought that given the fact we are trying to reset her body clock is it not going to confuse her if I change the time?
Rachalex

[RACHPEM]

btw should I have maybe offered her nap a little later so we could keep bedtime the same?
Rachel

[yaya]

yes actually i wuld agree with you ; )

[RACHPEM]

Sorry Yaya, do you mean you agree nap should have been later or bedtime still should have been at 7pm regardless of time she woke?

[yaya]

i agree with sticking to usual bedtime...maybe 30 mins earlier, no more than that but honestly in that situation I give early bedtime as I find it hard to deal with the OT!!Q

[RACHPEM]

Well I had Maya in bed by 6.30 and she fell straight to sleep and she woke at 5.30 yay!!! given the fact she only took an hr at naptime she obs tagged it on to nt sleep so I am still thinking she only needs 12 hrs in a 24 hr period.
Rachael x

[yaya]

could be...T only needs t (he is 3tho) but loves his nap so i let him have a lter bedtime, u nned to work out whats best for your Lo and sounds as tho u have my friend, well done you

[RACHPEM]

I think Maya has a cold coming she has not been very nice to be around today plus she slept for nearly 2hrs! and she actually asked to go to bed tonight too.  I have still aimed for 7pm btime but she is just chatting at the mo but I dont think it will be too long before she drops off.
Rachael

[bethanys mummy]

aaah the highs and lows of a cold... for us B always has 2 nights of NWs before a cold, but then when its here she sleeps more...

keep us posted

E x

[RACHPEM]

I heard Maya stir this morning at 4.15 but she settled herself off and woke at 5.18am! which seems to be the time she is waking more consistently.  So my plan is to stick with this for a few more days and then maybe push forward slightly so we can get a later bedtime/ later wake up but a little wary of doing this as she is already doing 5.30-12pm but I just dont seem to be able to get longer out of her overnight and I just want a 6am start! How do I do this without the risk of OT?
Rachael x

[Vicku]

Hi Rach,
I think just trying to do it slowly and gradually is the only thing you can do really... Lois is so much a 10.5hr kid that we can't even really do an earlier bedtime if she has a bad nap day or extra tired for whatever reason to catch up, cos she'll still wake after 10.5hrs and then we get into earlier wakings and that is to me worse...
Maybe try to start pushing bedtime after a day with a good long nap

[RACHPEM]

Well, we had to do 2 naps yeserday as we were out until 1ish so I put Maya down for 30 mins in the am and then she did another 1.15 in the pm, she fell asleep just past 7.15 and woke at 4.30!!!! she has got a cold so I can give her some slack but I am still so fed up with these ew.  It does not seem to make any difference what I do Icant get it right, we have a day where we get a later wake up then it all falls apart again.  I cant get anymore sleep nto her what ever I try, most days we average 11.5 hrs which still seems short even for a kid that needs less sleep than average. She did fall back to sleep after about 1hr for 30 mins but I was i the room, I am waking at 4 oclcok most mornings and I am knackered!
Sorry to moan, i just feel blue.  Does not help that my nieces little girl sleeps for england and wakes at 8oclock or after most days plus takes about 2-3 hrs in the day, I am not even asking for that just a 6am wake up would be fine and anything over 1hr ill take it,
Racahel x

[yaya]

sweetie hugs, and moan away , it helps, i know that well : )
Right this thread is so long, recap for me:
nap time?
bedtime?
What does eh do during the day?
What do u do when she wakes (EW)?

[RACHPEM]

Right, she generally wakes between 4.30 and 5.30 (we were progressing nicely towards the latter) I aim for nap around 11.30 but it was nearer 12 when she was going to sleep so I have been going for 11.50, and bedtime at 7pm unless like the other day she took 30min nap all day, she went down 30mins earlier.
She generally naps 1.5 on most days, when she wakes I do wi/wo, sometmes she will go back to sleep sometimes not.  As i said earlier she has a cold so things are prob not going to improve until she has got over that.  I just cant believe she only needs 11.5-12 hrs but that is all she seems to take regardless, if she takes a longer nap which is v rare she then sleeps less at night what she had extra in the day, if that makes sense?
Rachaelx