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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #90 on: March 29, 2009, 17:07:57 pm »
Hi Eloysh!
Oh I dread those time changes that makes EW!!!!!  Last time I did shift lead to bad OT.  Yes, only 1 lo too.  Not planning on another---did not know having a lo was so challenging and yet fun too.  I am getting up there in years and do not have energy.
bedtime: 8 
today woke at 6- maybe molars bothered her.
Nap 12.30- ?
I was tempted to do 1 for nap but I think she would be OT.  She does not show usually. Your advice about not giving her catnap was the best and to stick as closely to nap time as possible.
Oh my, your son did go to 1 nap early!! 
Btc, is there a book that you refer to for toddler for Tracy in regards to sleep or only through this board?

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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #91 on: March 30, 2009, 09:07:41 am »
Ha  ! IKWYM on the energy factor!  I'm planning on getting fit before TTC I am sick of not being able to jog for more than 400m  :(   

Hmm.  Hopefully you don't get too many 10 hour nights in a row... she was an 11 hour girl right?   
We got 6:00am wake-up , 30 min nap at 12:30pm  (I accidentally woke him) and 7:30pm bedtime tonight.  Not the best for the clocks going back.
Teeth cause us such an upset of his routine, J is just getting better after getting a molar, a virus that giave him ulcers all over his mouth and having the croup so I'm giving us a week to get back on track.


As for the books, I am baby/toddler book Junkie, on high rotation is Tracey's Toddler book (sScrets of the Baby Whisperer for Toddlers) and   "Raising your Spirited Child" by Mary Sheedy.   But most of the practical sleep info I have gotten is from this board, there asre users that who have really good advice and are experienced so I always read what they have to say and take note of their threads when they come up.  It is helpful when a moderator is going through the same issue, as they usually get to the bottom of it quickly, so I watch those threads with interest.     I also read alot of the history in good threads/stickies for example I have read about 60 pages of this EW thread.  After a while you can see themes cropping up and get a feel for what is working for people and what isn't, for different ages and stages.   

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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #92 on: March 31, 2009, 00:11:55 am »
Eloysh, your poor lo with molar, virus..oh my goodness...that is a lot in one shot.  I hope he feels better soon. 
Yes, I read some books on sleep but this board is the best to refer to.  I am a book junkie too--esp. on sleep. 
My lo is getting molars too-2 nd year ones so disrupting sleep I think too.  I am sticking to nap time as close as I can...so far not too bad.  At least not waking up at 5 like before.  I know, keeping fit while going after a little one required a lot of energy.  But it really gets funner and funner as they grow a little older--

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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #93 on: March 31, 2009, 02:33:13 am »
great, are the 2 year molars worse than the others?   I can't wait for the real talking to start.. we're just getting the two words strung together at the moment.  It is very cute.   I can't wait for it to get funner!   We had 6:00am wake-up today.. poo.  I'm at work today and I just found out my Mum put him down for his nap at 10:40am  (???)  and he only slept 45 mins...     she thinks she'll get an afternoon cat nap out of him.  Oh gosh. I better not be going home to a mess.!

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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #94 on: April 04, 2009, 00:34:47 am »
Hi, I have a questions to EW moms.  My lo 27 months old took a very long nap today 2 hours (usually 1.10 min) and I had to wake her up-1st time I ever had to do that!!! I know that usually a long nap will means less night sleep.
I put her to bed later due to that long nap.  If your lo takes a longer nap, do you make bedtime laterto avoid EW???  or keep it the same time.  Was not sure what most did.  Thanks!


Hi, Eloysh, the second year molars are bigger so she did wake up and her sleep has been off since she started getting them..she slept more for some reason.  NW not too bad--only 1 night but two of her molars are almost all out. 


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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #95 on: April 05, 2009, 06:01:01 am »
Hi,
Hope you don't mind me popping in here. I just have a question for you with early bird toddlers. My daughter is 15 months and we have had so many sleep issues. Until about 1.5 months ago she would wake upto 7 times a night. We have managed to sort that out  though and she now sleeps so much better (though still not consistently sleeping through). We have have also done the 2-1 nap transition, which I believe helped with night time sleep.

However, she now wakes up at 5.30am every morning and she's clearly still tired. THe only way I can get her back to sleep is by giving her a bottle and she'll be sleeping again about 6am. I then have to wak her up to take her to nursery. We don't have this problem during the night. When she wakes up she'll either go back to sleep on her own or I just put the dummy back in.

What I would do to get to sleep until 7am from time to time. 
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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #96 on: April 05, 2009, 06:06:40 am »
Sima,   I don't have any experience on that yet as J 's nap length doesn't seem to interfere with his sleep. I think our issue has always beein the the time that he goes to bed and the time his nap starts.     

 But I do know people with 2 year olds and over who say that they need to limit their LO's naps and ensure they finish by a certain time e.g. 4:00pm  otherwise they won;t go down till 9:00pm or later  (when they usually do to sleep at 8pm).   Maybe its going to be trial and error???

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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #97 on: April 22, 2009, 08:21:23 am »
Sorry for just popping in but I've read Pili2 and her story sounds so similar to mine.
I've got a 13 months old spirited boy. He is so spirited!!!
He has been waking 5:30 for a long while now but I would bring him to my bed
in order to sleep a little longer and he would do so. But for the past week or so nothing
I can do to help him sleep a little longer though last night he was up and out of a
sudden he went back to sleep till 6:40 am Tell me what's going on?
The good thing is that his sleep pattern has improved so much since 4 months ago.
The past  3 nights was just like a dream,  I never thought that will ever happen, he slept
from 7 pm till 5:30 am+ 1 hour longer yesterday.
Today for the first time in his life he refused the second nap, so I don't know what will
happen tonight.

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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #98 on: May 26, 2009, 18:36:20 pm »
Hi mel (melsy)
i've just been reading through this thread as i now have 2 early waking DS's and was blown away to see that you too have an Aidan, born in sep 04 who is a 5.15/5.30am waker.
i now have a ds who was born in Apr 08 so we have 2 children v similar in ages and now my ds2 has started with EW's too *sigh*.

towards the end of last year with the help of a cd alarm, i got Aidan to go to 6.45ish but his noisy little brother has set him off with EW's again.

i'm on a 2 to 1 nap thing with ds2 and the cd alarm is in use again for DS1, stickers for staying in bed till music comes on, and moving time in 5 min intervals. after 1 week we are still only at 5.35am:))

a bit of a pointless post just weird to see such a similar situation for someone else ;D

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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #99 on: May 30, 2009, 06:41:17 am »
Hey! I'm Julz, I'm new to the board... my LO turned 1 a week ago. We've hit toddlerdom with a thud, teething after 6months of none (he had 8 through at 6mo), EW's started 2 weeks ago, NW's started a month/2 ago, and he woke up with a horrible cold today and is napping (having woken at 5am) after only 2.5h A! I started a thread yesterday and now know that he's EW because he has a 2h nap at 9 in the morning and is OT by night time!! But now he's woken with that cold so can't do anything about it 'til he's better... talk about frustrating!! X
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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #100 on: June 21, 2009, 13:18:53 pm »
Hi there!  I am back to ask for some much needed advice on my EW 3year old.  Most of his life, he has been an amazing sleeper.  A few months ago, we moved from West coast to East coast, and dealt with a 3 hour time change.  One week later, the clocks got turned back, and made for a 4 hour total time difference :o.  This is now 8 months later, and I feel like we are still suffering from that.  We initally had NW, that went away.  But the only problem now is EW, regardless of bedtime.  For instance, last night he was in bed at 745, and didn't fall alseep until 9.  But he was up at 630.  Definately not enough sleep for him.  So here is our typical day.

Awake between 6/630  Grumpy and Tired.  Rarely I can get him to go back to sleep, when I do he sleeps until 730.  Feels MUCH better after that.
Nap 1 for an hour, sometimes 1hr 15min
Bath 630 (We have a lengthy bedtime routine.)
Bed 715 (Doesn't fall asleep until after 8pm... sometimes much later.)

I have a 5 month old, as well who is being disturbed by his early waking.  I know that it could be much worse of a time, but I know that he isn't getting enough sleep. An extra half hour would make all the difference to him.

I appreciate your time for reading this.  I look forward to hearing what you all might have to say. 

Thanks :),
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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #101 on: June 21, 2009, 20:24:49 pm »
Most 3 yr olds are taking a nap just over an hour and getting between 10-11 hrs of sleep at night.  so if he's up at 6/6:30 and you have him in bed by 7:15, that may just be too early of a bedtime for him. 
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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2009, 18:40:13 pm »
Hey there.   I've posted on the general toddler sleep thread but am hoping for some new insight.  I have twins and of course their sleep patterns are NOT similar in the least :(  Grace has always been a better daytime sleeper than Hannah but wakes earlier.  I was okay with that at first.  It used to be Hannah would sleep until 7:30/7:45 and Grace would sleep until 7.  Then Grace began waking at 6:45, then 6:30 and we have now settled at 6.  Seriously, good nap, great nap, bad nap... doesn't matter.  She wakes at 6 am.  For awhile her naps were not great so I attributed it to OT at bedtime.  But, lately naps are great.  She sleeps for 2 hours, sometimes as long as 2.5.  Earlier this week it was a 3.5 hour nap!  I let her nap long because for the weeks prior she had been only napping for 1.5 hours a day and nights were only 10.5 hours so I feel I am letting her catch up.  But seriously, she wakes at 6:00 on the dot!!  And having them on such different schedules is not fun.  Is there any hope to getting her back to waking at 7??  It is like she has an alarm clock that wakes her at 6!  I just don't know if I can or how to get her back to waking at 7 since her naps have to be early and thus bedtime early, I don't know where I could tweak it.  I'm afraid if I push out nap or night she'll be OT and that will make things worse.

The past week or so has been (I'll go back a few days to give you an idea)

6 am Awake
12:00 (nap started late, we were out) - 2:00
7:30 Asleep

6 am Awake
11:15 - 1:30 Nap
7:15  Asleep

6 am AWAKE
11:15 - 1:15
7:30 Asleep

6 am awake
11:15 - 2:45!!  (yes, slept for 3.5 hours)
(in crib at 7:45) did not fall asleep until 8:30 but still woke at 6:00

Today :
6 am Awake
11:15 - 1:15 Nap
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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #103 on: June 23, 2009, 01:28:42 am »
Have you thought about trying w2s at 5:30 - maybe the 6 am has become habitual, since the bedtime doesn't seem to affect it at all.
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Re: Support and Chat thread for parents of Early Waking Toddlers #2
« Reply #104 on: June 25, 2009, 01:01:39 am »
Oh goodness!  So, I woke at 5:25 and figured I'd try.  I did, she definitely "woke" for a brief second.  I waited to make sure she was going back to sleep and she did.  I was very hopeful.... until she woke talking away at 5:53!!  This little one is going to kill me with this.  It stinks b/c Hannah does not wake until 7:30 most days.  I do not have the heart to make her live on her sister's crazy schedule.  So, I am left with zero alone mommy time.   One day this will all be a distant memory and seem like no big deal but right now, it seems like such a big deal.  I thought having 2 at the same age would mean same bed/nap time... boy was I wrong!
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