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Please help - my nearly 11 month old is refusing to fall asleep
« on: December 01, 2008, 16:40:37 pm »
Hi, I'm Gillian mom to Aidan who is 10 1/2 months old.  This is my first post here - I found this site through a google search trying to find more information on how to deal with sleep issues.

The issue is he is fighting going to sleep at night.  He is obviously tired but just refuses to go down and won't even let me try to settle him down anymore.  Fortunately my DH is still able to calm him and he does eventually go to sleep.  For the most part he is STTN, although there have been a couple of occassions over the last couple of weeks where he has woken up which is very unusual for him because up until about a month ago, I have never had to get up in the middle of the night from the time he was about 2 months old.

Some history... As mentioned already, he started to STTN by 2 months old.  Our bedtime routine was always to have a bottle (I exclusively pumped since 6 weeks so it's pretty much always been a bottle either bm and now formula) and he would always fall asleep during the bottle, we'd transfer to his crib (he's slept in that since he was 2 weeks old) and we'd be good to go for the night.  He started at sleeping for about 6 hours and it increased up to his now normal 12 hours.  Nap times were very similar, but without the bottle.  He would fuss for a few minutes, but always put himself to sleep.

Fast forward to about 6 weeks ago - I returned to work and DH is now home with the baby.  I mention this only because there may or may not be a correlation.  About 2 weeks prior to my returning to work, we started to see signs of sleep habit changing.  He was no longer falling asleep during his bottle and DH would sit with him for a few minutes until he did.  When I returned to work, I took over bed time duty and then things started to escalate.  The 5 - 10 minutes of sitting with him to get him to sleep is now 1/2 - 1 hour of sitting with him while he screams and fights being held.  If I try to put him in his crib, he screams louder and stands up and starts chewing on the crib.  I have resorted to sitting with him/rocking him until he is completely asleep and some nights he just won't settle at all for me so DH usually takes over and that seems to still work.

For the most part he still STTN, but we have had about 4 or 5 night wakings in the last 2 weeks - the worst of which was 2 nights ago where it took nearly 3 hours to get him back to sleep again.  But then he'll go from that to STTN for several nights. 

I have no idea what I'm doing wrong and I have no idea how to fix the problem.  I am really hoping that I can get some direction here.  I've looked at some posts and I can tell that there is a wealth of information.

In general, our daily routine looks like this (give or take a bit on the times):

8:30 - wake up
8:45 - breakfast
9:45 - bottle #1
10:30 - nap for about 1 hour
12:00 - lunch
1:00 - bottle #2
3:30 - nap for anywhere from 1/2 hour to 1 1/2 hours
4:30 - dinner
5:30 - bottle #3
7:30 - bath (every other night)
8:00 - jammies, book and bottle
8:30 - asleep if it's a good night, but this can go an hour or so longer

I'm sorry this was so long, I just wanted to get all the info I could think would be relevant down.

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Re: Please help - my nearly 11 month old is refusing to fall asleep
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 09:42:15 am »
hi gp70,

welcome to the boards! just wondering before i write more, have you read any of the baby whisperer books? as you have probably deduced from reading other posts, this site is based on the advice that tracy hogg offered in the series of BW books. if you haven't already read them it might be useful to pick one up (perhaps the toddler book would be most helpful).

you gave lots of great information but it is not easy for me to pinpoint exactly what the problem is, though i have a few ideas. just wondering, have you ruled out teething?  you mentioned him biting on the bars of his crib and waking in the night which he doesn't usually do, both made me think he could be cutting some teeth.

further the two things that stand out to me are how he is getting to sleep and his routine changing from you going back to work. regarding his routine, what time do you get home from work, and what happens then? i have read (i think in bw) about parents who come home shortly before bedtime and that gets the child all excited or upset and makes bedtimes difficult moments to settle. is the same thing happening at bedtimes on the weekends too?

regarding the way you get him to sleep, it also made me think that as he gets older, using a bottle to get him to sleep may begin to be much less effective as solids are a much more important part of his diet now and milk no longer has such a filling, relaxing effect. that was/is certainly the case for my ds anyway. so i am wondering if he is starting to need a new way to get to sleep, but so far this is the only method of falling asleep that he knows. therefore when bedtime comes around and he is not falling asleep from his bottle, he is getting very frustrated and upset because he is tired and expecting to sleep, but doesn't know how.

if this is the case then i would recommend doing some sleep training to teach him to sleep independently without a "prop" to get to sleep such as a bottle, you rocking him, etc. (i would actually recommend sleep training regardless of whether this is the problem or not, as eventually it will be a problem). ideally he should be drowsy and you leave his room while he's fully awake.  the babywhisperer method suggests doing pick-up/put down (pu/pd) or, depending on where he is in his development, just put down. Here is a link to the faq's of that board where you can get more info: http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?board=89.0

sleep training will be best when you and your husband really have the time to dedicate to it and can committ to seeing it through until it's done. if you are in a particularly stressful time or will be, then perhaps it is best to rock him to sleep now and begin the training as soon as it is a good moment for you.

hope this helps, keep us posted in any case on how you get on. x
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Re: Please help - my nearly 11 month old is refusing to fall asleep
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 20:17:40 pm »
Thank you for the response.  I'm just seeing this now as I was sick for a couple of days.

I have not read The Baby Whisperer yet but plan on buying the book this weekend.  An online mommies group that I belong to have several mothers who have used the pu/pd method with success and I believe it is the right strategy for me right now as well.  I hadn't read up on any sleep related topics because I lucked out with an incredibly good sleeper - until recently of course. 

You gave me some really good things to consider as possible causes and from what you're said, I believe the bottle as a prop is probably the source.  He is most definitely tired and I can see that he is frustrated.  I've been assuming he's just over tired, but it makes sense that he's getting frustrated from just now knowing how to sleep. 

I've never really figured out how to deal with him standing up in his crib without picking him up, which is why I think pu/pd will help here. 

I don't believe it's teething - he's got 8 teeeth already and we never went through anything like this with teething before.  I also don't think it's too much excitement before bed because he gets a good 3 hours of awake time with me between after work and bed and I don't see any difference between working days and non working days.   So, process of elimination takes me back to the bottle and not knowing how to get himself to sleep.

Thanks again so much for your input, you have helped to point me in a new direction and where to look for further info.  I suspect I'll be back looking for more advice and support as I go through this.

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Re: Please help - my nearly 11 month old is refusing to fall asleep
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2008, 19:16:28 pm »
hi there,

you're welcome and i hope you enjoy reading the bw books, they have helped me and other moms on this site in so many countless ways!
one thing i wanted to mention...if you are interested in the pu/pd method, you might want to look into the book "baby whisperer solves all your problems", as this one goes into great detail about this sleep method and how to tackle any issues you might be having.  however, if you do not get that one you will still get some great sleep training advice on these boards. here is a link to more info on pu/pd.
have a great weekend. x
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