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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2008, 22:29:24 pm »
no, I had a lactation consultant adn tehy weighed ds beofre and after a feeding. HE would take in about a half ounce, maybe an ounce, and sometimes a wee bitmore. but not much more than that. 

Yes, both myds biliribun levels were high, which is why they were hospitalized.  Thanks so much for al the info. I am really hopeful!! Glad to hear the sns is a good option.
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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2008, 01:50:18 am »
DS2 was induced, and it makes no difference to the milk supply.
My understanding is that milk supply is "kick started" by the body's loss of the placenta.  Which is why any retained placenta can cause problems with milk supply.  So as long as all your placenta is out, your body should be getting the signals to make milk.
Get the baby to the breast as soon as you can after birth.  Let them suckle as long as they want and as often as they want.  They won't take much in a feed for the first few days.  Their stomachs are only little - about the size of a walnut.
Their suckling will stimulate your body to make milk.  DS2 fed almost hourly on night 2 of his life, and my milk 'came in' the next day. 

As for the jaundice, letting your LO suckle as often as possible is the best cure.  DS1 had it and was kept in hospital a few days after he was born to go under lights.  I was told to give him formula too, and did a bit.  However, he hadn't been suckling well in the hospital so he hadn't stimulated my supply.
The best advice I got was to let him try to eat for 10 minutes, feed him either EBM or formula from a bottle and then pump for 10 minutes (5 minutes a side) and repeat every 3 hours.  As time went by and my supply came up, the amount of formula I gave him went down and then eventually I found he didn't want the bottle either.
Gave my sleep-deprived, hormonally-screwed head something to work with.  If someone had clipped his tongue-tie it is possible that we could have avoided this all though!  >:(

The SNS is a much better option than bottles as the baby suckling on the breast will stimulate the supply while they get "the goods". 
I hope this time is much more successful for you.   :)
 
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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2008, 02:20:45 am »
thanks for all that info!! that is great to hear similar stories and ways to deal with it.  I appreciate it !!

will definitely try the sns if I have to but will put it off till it is really necesary.
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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2008, 03:25:25 am »
sending some milk vibes your way   :-* :-*
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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2008, 07:58:05 am »
http://www.kellymom.com/newman/07jaundice.html

I've read some other things on line too but tbh, can't figure why formula has been recommended.  There are lots of ways to treat jaundice and most if not all of these ways don't exclude breastfeeding.  I know that jaundice does go quicker when formula is given so maybe that's just why...

Anyway, good luck!!!

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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2008, 21:48:59 pm »
I know that jaundice does go quicker when formula is given so maybe that's just why...
The key is to get as much food/fluids into them as possible.  The problem with BFing is that the bilirubin makes them sleepy, so they don't suck as well, which doesn't stimulate milk production, which means they don't get much, then they don't clear the bilirubin and the cycle just keeps repeating itself.  Formula just means that they get food/fluids guaranteed.

I think the idea of jaundice needing to go away quickly probably dates to the era of exclusive FFing where the bilirubin was cleared quickly and so that became normal. 
Also the idea of only BFing for "X" number of minutes per side doesn't help a LO spend enough time at the breast to stimulate the milk supply and consequently help clear the bilirubin.

More ~~~Milk vibes ~~~ for you Christie!
 
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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2008, 22:18:48 pm »
Don't have any advice to add to all the great stuff you've already gotten, but sending truckloads of milk vibes your way. :-*
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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2008, 21:36:44 pm »
not enough breastmilk. shes only gained one ounce in 3 days......im upset about it. have really tried so hrard!!

I am also trying to supplenment with the sns but she really doesnt seem hungry. is that normal? she isnt finishing thewhole ounce im supplementing every time.  am I being too obsessive?
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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2008, 21:48:51 pm »
Christie - I would check out the La Leche League website and see if there is someone you can call for advice.  They have the US divided into regions so there would be someone assigned to your area.  My friend here in Ohio is a La Leche league counselor so if all else fails I can ask her if she would talk to you.  Please keep us posted!  Sending huge hugs!

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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2008, 22:22:27 pm »
Christie, how much of her birth weight did she lose?  And how much has she gained back from that?  They usually want birth weight back by 2 weeks, although James took a good 3 weeks to do his.  I was fighting low supply with him at the time, I think. 

Is she jaundiced?  Wasn't that a concern?  If I recall correctly, that can make them really sleepy, but they need to be awakened so they can eat to get *rid* of the jaundice.  Right?
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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2008, 22:23:50 pm »
Definitely seek out help IRL - don't lose faith honey.  Is she well in herself - are there any health issues that could be causing her to burn more calories?  Have you seen any milk?  Are you hearing her swallow?  Have you tried breast compressions while she's latched on?  Sorry for all the questions - just trying to build a better picture so as to be able to help.

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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2008, 22:24:45 pm »
Forgot to add that nothing can be determined from one weigh in!  Don't lose too much heart based purely on this one incident :-*

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Re: milk vibes please
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2008, 23:12:11 pm »
hugs from me too...agree with pp's...