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Re: I need help (again!) getting back on track, please!!!!
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2009, 22:20:17 pm »
agreed :@ btw doe syour clock run on battery? I ahve not seen taht in the US but can eaisly get on form the UK if its battery run. And at what age did you introduce it. i ahve been meaning to for a long time as DS totally buys the 'its so dark you have to sleep' story about 50% of the time, but its going to be summer one day......
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« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2009, 22:33:38 pm »
no, its mains operated.  its called Kidsleeps Clock, but its manufactured by a european company who run on different plugs and voltage than UK, so it may be possible it would work in US, but you would have to check for sure.

one thing I noticed however about 2months after I struggled to find anything but that make of clock is that suddenly you can get them everywhere in UK, all different shapes, sizes and characters so have a look on net, I'd bet you can get all manor of them in US.

I think Lily was just coming up to 2.25 when I introduced it.


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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2009, 22:51:34 pm »
thanks!
9 and 6, oh boy!

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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2009, 19:34:07 pm »
hows it going Rachel?

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« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2009, 07:35:22 am »
Hi Nik, thought I would update! things are not great! still taking over an hr to fall asleep, 1 hr naps and bedtime sleep varies day to day between 9.5 - 10.5!!!!! 5.45 this morning, although did not fall aslewep until 7.45 and 30 mins nw too.
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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2009, 13:14:12 pm »
how long are her naps honey.  how is the sleep training going?  can't think how long have you been at this now?

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« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2009, 13:40:51 pm »
Hi Nik, it feels like FOREVER!!!! with one thing or another, her naps are, mainly 1hr long and once she is awake that is it, but she is very tired late afternoon and so i think she is OT by bedtime, I have been aiming for a 7pm bedtime instead but it is taking so long for her to settle it is nearer 8pm and it is not getting any easier!!!

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« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2009, 19:23:16 pm »
I just don't really know what to suggest mate, once again your girl has me stumped!  I can't help but think she is still really OT, 9.5hr night with a 1hr nap is just so little sleep, even if she was getting 10.5 at night thats still 1.5hrs below average, seems way below average to me.  The real trouble is that if she is OT by bedtime which seems highly likely then she is going to continue to struggle to get to sleep and no amount of sleep training is going to help.

have you looked on the example routine's to see if you can find something based on low night sleep, see how others have done it.  I'll have a quick look now and see if I can come up with anything.


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« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2009, 19:56:31 pm »
here are some I've found:-

My dd is 19 months old and her day looks like this:

6-6.30am: awake

7am: breakfast

11.30-12pm: lunch

1.15-1.30pm: nap (2hrs to 2hrs 30mins)

3.30-4pm: awake

6pm: dinner

7.30pm: bathtime/bedtime routine

8pm: asleep

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My goodness, how do you all get your toddlers to sleep so much!  I am soooo envious.  He never sleeps longer than 10 hours a night unless he's sick.  What am I doing wrong?

Here's Little Man's schedule:
He's 19 months.

6:00-6:30 Up and at 'em; give me breakfast!

8:30-9:30 (somewhere in there) Snack

11:00 Lunch

11:30-2:30 Nap

2:30/3:00 Snack

4:30 Dinner

7:00 milk

7:30 Wind-down

8:00 In bed

Edited: changed nap to an hour longer.  Right after I posted this he started taking 2.5 to 3 hour naps and has been ever since.  So now, thankfully, he's getting all 13 hours of needed sleep.

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This is Margot's typical day at 20 months also after a diffcult 2 to 1 nap transition and very helpful time change!

6:00 wake up
6:45 bf and play in Mummy's bed
8 breakfast
9:45 snack
12 lunch
1-3 nap
3 snack
5:45 dinner
7 start bedtime routine, including teeth with daddy, stories, then bf with mummy and bed
8 sleep

about 10 hours overnight sleep, and usually 2 hour naps but naps still range for us from 1.5 to 2+ hours. 

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Carm is 25 months old. 

7:00 wake up (usually anywhere from 6:00-7:00, but I don't get her until 7 a.m.)
7:30-8 breakfast
9:30 small snack
11:30-12 lunch
12:30 in bed for nap (usually takes awhile to fall asleep and sleeps 1.5 hours)
3:00 snack
5:30 dinner
6:00 go for a walk outside
7:00 bath
7:30 clean up, snack, books, upstairs to brush teeth
8:00 bedtime (usually asleep within 30 minutes..sometimes an hour)

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Hayden will be 29 months next week, here is his schedule as of now at home.  He is in daycare twice/week while I am on maternity leave and they nap 12-130.

500-600 wake
7ish breakfast
900 snack or juice
1100 lunch
1200-200/300 wake and milk or snack
500 dinner
630 bath
700 milk and snack
800 bed sometimes 730 on daycare days

We have struggled so long with early wakings, since as long as I can remember, but since he is in daycare, it is hard to adjust his schedule.  The last couple of days he has gone to bed later because of special things going on during the summer which he hardly has ever done, we are usually very strict with bedtime.  First night he went to bed 915 or so and woke 530, but last night went to bed at about the same time and woke at 645am.  Almost thinking of keeping his bedtime a little later, maybe 830, just so he sleeps past 6am or later as he doesn't ever sleep more than 9.5-10 hours at night.  Things might change when I return to work next month and he is only napping 1.5 hrs at daycare though.


Hope you can find something useful in that lot Rach, if nothing else it shows that her short nights aren't quite so rare, but they do seem to be making up for the short nights with decent length naps, what are your thoughts x


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Re: I need help (again!) getting back on track, please!!!!
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2009, 18:56:27 pm »
Just a quick update, Maya is back in our bed!!!! our heating broke last night and it is freezing so had no choice really, not going to get a part til monday so back to sqaure 1, but just too cold for her to sleep in her room, xxx

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« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2009, 07:09:45 am »
OK heating is finally fixed so transferring maya back to her own bed again!!!! this should be fun.

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« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2009, 13:05:30 pm »
good luck hun :-)


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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2009, 09:37:43 am »
Back again!!! attempted 1st night last week but she was terribly sick in the night so we put her back in with us and she has been poorly all wk with a tummy bug so i did not want to try anything different for her . Started last night, she had a good nap of 2 hrs yesterday til 2pm so had her in bed asleep by 7.20pm.  !st waking 10.30 for 1 hr nor too distrssed, howevrr then woke at 4.30 and no joy ging back to sleep we gave up at 6pm, i know it was only the first day but i really hope we are not going back to 4.30 wake up;s i just cant bear to thinkabout it! she has been sleeping at leaszt 11 hrs with us so i now know she is capable.
any thoughts?
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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2009, 14:01:00 pm »
Hi honey
My only thoughts are she was sleeping 11hrs in your bed, but she was poorly, ow was she sleeping 11hrs when not poorly? if not then, I know its a whole lot of confusing backwards and forwards for you and her but now she is better can you do a trial run of a week in your bed and tally up all her naps and night sleep so you get a really good picture of what she is really capable of sleeping.  Armed with that you will then know for sure if the waking at 4.30 onwards and refusing to go back to sleep is purely based on her being on her own in her own room.  If it is that then you don't so much need a plan for a succesful routine you need plans on how to get her to sleep longer when in her own room. 

I've got no experience of this but my thoughts would be based along the lines of you sleeping with her in her own room, is she in a big girl bed yet? it might not feel like the right time but if she was in a single bed at least you could come and get in with her in the mornings and both go back to sleep together then work on some form of GW plan for you to not spend the whole rest of the morning in there.

the other benefit of a big girl bed transition could be getting her excited about her new big girl bed, choosing her own duvet covers etc, this may really help make her feel more comfortable sleeping in her own special bed, rather than in with yours.

another thought, does she have a lovey yet?  Lily was quite late choosing her lovey and it took some time for a total bond to exist between her and her lovey.  She was just over 2, last june and we went on holiday, we went to eden project and she chose a rabbit to buy, we called it eden, she was really fond of it but I really pushed by us taking eden everywhere with us wherever we went and talking with eden before sleep times, she has pride of place beside Lily's pillow and in the last month she has started to cuddle her in her sleep.  I really beleive having a security item like this helps in heaps of stressful situations, Lily still takes eden to pre school with her everytime.


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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2009, 17:48:50 pm »
Hi nik, thanks for your input, Maya has been in our bed since our holiday and has been succesfully sleeping 11 hrs every night with a hr 30-2 hrs nap most days, some days only 1.20 but she has been like that since so i am sure the illness was not the cause of longer sleeps and more the fact she does not want to be in her own room!!! she is still in her cot , i know what you are saying about the choosing her own things etc but not sure if i want to take this step just yet, she does have a lovey and does not let it out her sight , i think she just likes lots of cuddles, and who can blame her really? anyway i guess we will give it a wk andmonitor how things go I def dont want to go back to early mornings though, so fingers crossed!