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Offline goblin

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night waking - many times
« on: January 27, 2009, 14:06:20 pm »
How old is your child? 9 months

What’s nap routine? am and pm naps
How long are naps? 30 mins to 1 hour
What's bedtime routine? Time?  8:30 pm
My daughter is 9 months old and she is quite a calm and passive baby during the day.
Although for the past two weeks she has been waking up so much during the night.  For the past two nights
when she gets up I breastfeed her as usual and instead of going back to sleep (as she used to) she either cries
or wants to play.  When my husband and I put her to bed initially she cries and we keep going in to reassure her.
I think she is teething but she has been for months.  It has only gotten quite bad (with the waking and crying) in the past few days.
I've included answers to the essential questions below.  If anyone has any advice I would really appreciate it.  Thanks.

Do you bottle or breastfed?  BREASTFEED
How much? or how long? EVERY TWO HOURS (during the day), on demand (NORMALY every three hours or less at night)
If breastfed.. one side or both?? (one side, at each feed)
How many wakes per night? normally 3 times, but lately she is waking, eating and is unable to settle
What’s your LO like when waking at night? How long is he/she up? Last night and the night before she was up for almost 2 hours straight at a time.
When you go to him/her is she fussing or crying?   I hear her fussing sometimes but only go to her when she is crying. 
What have you tried to settle??  Stuffed animals, blankets,  placing her back in her sleeping position, talking to her.
Are there developmental issues such as teething or milestones?  probably
Have you introduced cereal?  yes three months ago
Do they have a prop? If so what is it? not really
Do they have a lovie? no

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Re: night waking - many times
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 13:31:12 pm »
Hi there!
Welcome to BW. Could you post your routine like this:
Eat
Activity
Sleep
with the relevant timings so we can get a better idea of if it's a routine issue?
Thanks
Also, am I right in thinking that LO is breastfed to sleep? If so this  could also be a prop issue, as Tracy Hogg outlines, babies end up 'needing' to be put back to sleep with this or other 'props' and cannot go to sleep independently, do you think this could be your case?
Lastly, the naps seem a bit short so possbily LO could be overtired so if you post your routines we can help you to extend those naps.
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Re: night waking - many times
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 16:46:56 pm »
Hi - are you doing an EASY routine?

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Re: night waking - many times
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 14:05:37 pm »
Hi

Hugs.  :( Can be a miserable old time when you're up all night and the little munchkin just doesn't get that while they can catch up on sleep later, you can't.  :'(

Right then. A few ideas off the top of my head until you post your routine (you mentioned you're feeding on demand so I'm guessing it's mainly naps and A times...).

 * 9 month growth spurt. It could be....Lasted almost a month with my DS (seriously an UNBELIEVABLE amount of food consumed, I spent the whole time getting him more while he cried as his bowl was empty  :o). He's now at it again - he'd get a gold if eating was in the Olympics.  What this may mean for you is that you LO is constantly trying to get enough on board to settle, and isn't. Feeding every 2 hours during the day and every 3 at night sounds like a snacker to me. And so she may not be getting enough right now. If this is the case, you might need to increase your production to keep her satisfied and to rule out hunger. You can get more ideas on this on the Breastfeeding board (I had a post on this: ). I'd also offer both breasts per feed and perhaps try to eek out the feeds during the day (a longer period between feeds so really hungry for the next feed). Also, try offering more food during the day, including snack items like a rice cake for example to get all those calories in during the day to see her through the night.

 * teething. You mentioned you thought she'd been for a few months. Have you tried pain meds during the night to help?
 
 * just not that tired. My DS started introducing his own unofficial A times in the night. Infuriating, tiring and beyond annoying. I'd do everything I could to get him back to sleep. After an hour or so of what was initially crying, then a bit of babbling, then lying there patiently trying to sleep but just not able to drift off deeply, he would get to sleep. And sleep in like a teenager that I'd have to drag out of bed...grumpy, tired and ready to sleep 10 mins later. So I increased his A times during the day, reducing naps ever so slightly by giving him a good long A before bed and we got good-nights. Hurrah!! BUT (hard to tell without EASY) the NW could be not enough sleep during the day and too much A.... so we'll see what Yaya makes of your routine and suggests.  :)

 * a clear bed policy. Something I introduced when I did sleep training and I think it helped. Basically all my DS has in his bed are his lovies (2 as they are small so he can always find them). Nothing else to get all distracting and play with in the night.

 * a lovie: a security toy that makes you LO feel safe. I've been trying to introduce one since DS was a newborn. I don't think he thinks of his Roo as a lovie yet, but it's always there at all the important times: anytime he is sleeping (car, bed, pram / buggie, any big trips to new places). I bought a Roo which is quite small, cheap and machine washable. We have about 10 of them. When washed, they spend a day down my bra or 2 nights in bed cuddled with me so they smell like Mummy and comfort. I heard that the way to introduce a lovie is to have it at there at all high emotion events (really happy, really sad, really upset) etc...and to rub it on their cheek or hand during these times so that it becomes something they associate with comfort.

 * development: when you go in, is she standing and can she get back down safely? If you lay her down, does she jack-in-the-box back up?

Just ideas. I'm sure Yaya will have much clearer advice when she sees your EASY.  :)

HTH

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Re: night waking - many times
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 20:34:49 pm »
Hi everyone!

Thanks for all of your advice.  My kids are not on a routine, as I am not a routine oriented person.  I will try to incorporate some of the techniques you are offering.  Is it true that some kids can be so stubborn that it is almost impossible to get them on a sleeping schedule during the day?  My girls, 3 years and 9 months are horrible nappers.  I guess I need to spend ALOT of time trying to get them to adapt to a new kind of tactic.  My three year old is a good nighttime sleeper, and I am hoping my 9 month old will be too at that age.

Thanks again everyone!

Sherrie